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| Older- OMO |
Posted - Jan 20 2006 : 16:02:43 Ok I ran the test.
Final score 1771 Talk about feeling like the turd in the punch bowl. |
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| Bloody |
Posted - Dec 22 2009 : 08:46:43 Plus most the liquids will also dry into a crust type cake that can be flaked off of parts if needed. I had a leak that went into my SATA ports on my mobo, but the Koolance coolant just dried up and was easy to just flake off the parts.
Liquid cooling is not for everyone for sure, as it takes a lot longer to build systems up, fix or replace items, etc. and it's really expensive to start. However, for many of us, liquid cooling is a must and the benefits very much out weigh the cost and minor issues that come with it. Cost is high right at first, but not bad once your up and running with your system. |
| Expired-OMO |
Posted - Dec 22 2009 : 08:23:37 Actually pure distilled water does not conduct electricity. It's the impurities in water that causes conduction. Some of the solutions available do work beter than water because they have wetting agents and a dye to make it easier to spot a leak. |
| medicated |
Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 22:29:15 Heart, the fluid used in watercooling is non conductive. Water works as well but ive survived 3 leaks that could have fried my stuff easy as not. Dust off and rubbing alcohol removes Prestone pretty good btw. Go non conductive fluid and you cant go wrong. |
| Bloody |
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 16:02:56 I have had different softwares installed to get temps, but found they are not really that accurate. I use the heat probes that came with my Koolance case. They interface with the controller (fan unit, temp read out, etc) and have 6 total mounted. lol 3 go to actual parts (CPU, GPU and Ram). I tuck them in the provided slot on the CPU block and then just find a good place on the GPU and Ram. The other 3 probes are on the external Koolance unit and go to my outflow line and inflow line for my GPU/CPU and then one on the radiator. It's kinda cool cause you can see all the temps as they cycle and can glance over at them as you run benchmarks, etc.
As for flow meters, I don't use one but did install an inline adapter for future use if I feel I need one. I just look at the reservoir to see the bubble action and know it's working. I also use two different colors on the coolant. I use a different color when I have to flush the system, that way I know it's all new. I also like to have two different colors on each line system (main and aux) so if I do have a leak, I know where it's coming from. I have only had one leak in 8 plus years (knock on wood), and it wasn't a big deal so I don't worry too much.
Fans I set at 9, as my office is hot as hell being on the top level of our house. 10 is too loud and I could get away with as low as maybe 6, but 9 is not too loud and cools very well. |
| Stingray |
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 11:52:25 quote: Originally posted by Bloody
I have yet to see my cards or CPU get above 45 C under full load and that's in an office with 75 - 80 F temps.
Once you do water cooling it's hard to go back. lol
Where you getting your CPU temp from? I installed Everest Ultimate Edition, gives your (cpu) core temp and (general)cpu temp. Big difference in the two. General cpu temp is the one most people report on and is the temp the bios monitors.
Wasn't aware of the core temp until I installed Everest. Core temp really tells you whats going on with your cpu.
General cpu temp idle 36c OC'd to 3.8Ghz 41c under stress.(4 Ghz getting a little toasty)
Core cpu temp 44-70c depending on usage
GPU temps 33c at idle 45-50 at full tilt playing Crysis 100% gpu usage OC'd to 900MHz. Can't believe it, that use to be the idle temp on air.
Bloody, are you using a flow meter? Now that all my air bubbles are gone, I can't see the liquid moving. lol
Where to you have your pump set at?
Heart, don't you have a liquid cooled system? |
| HEARTBURN-OMO |
Posted - Dec 17 2009 : 10:17:27 You guys just talking about this kind of stuff just scares the hell out of me...heh |
| Bloody |
Posted - Dec 16 2009 : 07:09:54 I do have Physx turned on, so that would explain that one. Guess it actually does something then. lol I will turn it off and test again.
As for water cooling, I only split my line (10mm to 8mm) on the secondary cooler that does my ram and hard drives. In that case it works well, as the ram coolers use a 6mm internal and slow the flow there anyway. My main unit is the external Exos that does just 750 watts and runs all 10mm in series. I have yet to see my cards or CPU get above 45 C under full load and that's in an office with 75 - 80 F temps.
Once you do water cooling it's hard to go back. lol |
| Stingray |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 16:27:39 Read if you have Physx turned on it will inflate the CPU score. Probably why yours is so high.
Yeah running 10mm via external Exos 2.5 (1k watts). I tried spliting the flow so each device would be getting non-heated fluid, but it didn't seem to work to well.
I re-did everything in a linear fashion, now you can really see the fluid moving (well you could when it had bubbles, they're almost all gone). Running through the CPU first then the GPU's. I thought this would artificially heat up the GPU's, but it doesn't seem to negatively effect them temp wise.
Very happy with the results. Like getting a major CPU/GPU upgrade.
Worked until midnight on this thing, I was in geek heaven. LOL
HTPC is next!
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| Bloody |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 16:04:55 Not sure how but I just ran it again without anything else running (had Star Trek online updater running before) and it came out about the same. I don't have any OC going, and the Q9650 is pretty fast for the non i series. Don't know. I should try OCing again and running it. I haven't been OCing since I put the 9650 in, as it's fast enough at stock. Guess if I burn it out now it's just a good excuse to do my upgrade. lol
Just curious, on your Koolance, did you run the 10mm hose? I went from 6mm - 8mm and now to 10mm in this latest set up and it seemed to make a fair difference with the higher flow pumps. Use to be with the lower flow pumps you had to be careful of getting too big on the hose length and diameter or you would reduce the efficiency.
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| Stingray |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 13:46:29 quote: Originally posted by Bloody
OK, it now makes more since.
Glad to hear you like the water cooling. What did you end up with (Koolance?)
Updated post above with vantage scores, didn't realize program was so cheap. Here's scores with cpu at 4.00GHz, gave score a nice little bump.
3DMark Vantage Score 25156 CPU Score 24381 Graphics Score 25426
Wonder how your getting such a high cpu score? Do you have Physx turned on? What preset are you using, I'm using performance.
Yeah, went Koolance, GPU and CPU only at the moment. Actually able to turn 3 case fans off (5 if you count cpu fans). Ironically, my NorthBridge temp dropped with fewer fans, must be getting a more uninterrupted airflow from my side panel fan. |
| Bloody |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 13:18:37 OK, it now makes more since.
Glad to hear you like the water cooling. What did you end up with (Koolance?) |
| Stingray |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 13:02:20 Abover were 06 scores. Here are the vantage scores Overall score 24436 CPU Score 23017 Graphics Score 24948
CPU at 3.8 GPU at 900MHz |
| Bloody |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 12:48:05 Sting, are these 3DMark 06 scores or 3DMark Vantage scores?
Reason I ask is my system scores much lower (15,000 or so) but the specs are not that much lower than yours. Look at my CPU score too, it's huge compaired to yours, so it makes me think I am running Vantage and your running the old 3DMark 06. If not, and your also running Vantage, then I am all confused now.
3DMark Score 15274 3DMarks CPU Score 36261 Graphics Score 10959 Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 @ 3 GHz Nvidia GTX280 x 2 (SLI) 4 Gig DDR2
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| Stingray |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 09:26:36 Sting's gone Liquid!
3DMark Score 27209 3DMarks SM 2.0 Score 9857 SM 3.0 Score 14445 CPU Score 6840
CPU oc'd my humble i7 920 (2.66 stock) to 4.02 cpu temp never went about 43c, core temps hit mid 60c few times.
Idle temp cpu 39c Core temp 46c.
GPU's (ATI 5970) at 900MHz (stock 725MHz) Temps never went above 45c. Idle temps 32c
Best part, system is much quieter!
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| Bloody |
Posted - Dec 04 2009 : 14:43:32 Does 3DMark Vantage test with Windows 7? |
| Specimen-OMO |
Posted - Dec 04 2009 : 10:15:18 Cool. I forgot about this thread. I'll have to post on my build sometime this weekend. |
| Stingray |
Posted - Dec 04 2009 : 09:06:00 3DMark Score 20363 3DMarks SM 2.0 Score 8198 SM 3.0 Score 9326 CPU Score 5822
CPU oc'd to 3.38 GPU's stock settings 88000GTX's SLI'd
W7 or New Drivers really helped my score or a combination of both.
Will post results with 5970 ATI due to arrive this afternoon
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| Stingray |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 11:06:52 920 i7 Still running 8800GTX's SLI'd ASRocks mobo, 6gigs of ram
Bone Stock:
Overall Score = 15260 SM2 = 5616 SM3 = 7397 CPU = 4519
CPU OC'd to 3.6 (temp never went above 50c):
Overall Score = 18667 SM2 = 7263 SM3 = 8377 CPU = 5945
Everything OC'd including GPU (mild oc on the gpu):
Overall Score = 19399 SM2 = 7346 SM3 = 9035 CPU = 5978
Current Settings, CPU OC'd to 3.33GHz, GPU stock settings. This is where I'm going to keep it at. Very stable:
Overall Score = 18463 SM2 = 7378 SM3 = 8171 CPU = 5751
Obvious to me the 920 is under clocked from the factory, temp only went to 40c during cpu test at stock settings.
Purrs like a kitten at 3.33GHz, where I'll keep it for now. No signs of instability at 3.6. With liquid cooled rig, I bet I could run all day at 3.8GHz.
With more aggressive GPU settings, I think I could hit 20k plus. |
| Specimen-OMO |
Posted - Oct 06 2008 : 07:40:36 I'm hoping to hold off on O/S upgrade until Windows 7 or Vista SP2. Rumours have it that Windows 7 may be out next year. Apparently they have released the code (not exactly sure what that means but) to hardware/software developers in Jan '08. I'm not sure this early collaberation was done with Vista. Also 7 is supposed to be more customizable, meaning you can tune the O/S to better suit your needs and shut off unwanted stuff without uninstalling. (Ie. gaming hot rod) Let's hope... |
| Bloody |
Posted - Oct 06 2008 : 07:00:35 Haven't looked at the release notes but maybe it's something to do with better numbers for Vista? I know that Vantage (3DMark for Vista) is becoming the standard now. |