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That's MISTER Lag Monkey to you.
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 Posted - Jan 25 2004 : 20:45:27
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Yeah, and don't use a keyboard either. That's bad.
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Posted - Jan 25 2004 : 21:03:12
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And always drive a FORD if you want to win races... That's good!
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Novus Ordo Seclorum
Knowledge is power... has been since time eternal. Arcane knowledge is thereby ultimate power and can
therefore lead to ultimate corruption. Wisdom (and the experience that comes with age) is a serum for corruption.
Perhaps that is why there are so many Old Men with Arcane knowledge and so few young ones...
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Posted - Jan 26 2004 : 07:42:00
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Take off eh, todays topic is BACK BACON.
Way better than regular bacon cus its got less fat eh. That and its round so the leftovers can be used as coasters for beers so you dumb hosers don't leave marks on the breakfast table.
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Posted - Jan 26 2004 : 19:52:29
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I find a joystick a lot easier to use when swerving sideways in my favorite #3 style(cleaning the track off for the next lap) move. Do we have several NASCAR drivers that actually play? I love to do racing but it gets boring playing strangers every time. Its not very true to the sport unless you know your rivals.
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That's MISTER Lag Monkey to you.
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Posted - Jan 26 2004 : 20:47:17
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I've been racing 3-4 times a week.
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Posted - Jan 26 2004 : 23:30:35
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I'll be back online in a week or so (I know I keep saying that but this server move is really taking a bunch of time).
I'll be racing the first day I'm online... that is without a doubt.
I'll be flying IL-2 Sturmovik on my dedicated persistant server the second!
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Novus Ordo Seclorum
Knowledge is power... has been since time eternal. Arcane knowledge is thereby ultimate power and can
therefore lead to ultimate corruption. Wisdom (and the experience that comes with age) is a serum for corruption.
Perhaps that is why there are so many Old Men with Arcane knowledge and so few young ones...
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Posted - Jan 26 2004 : 23:35:40
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Is that the old IL-2? or the new one?
I look forward to swappin' some paint with you again.
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Posted - Jan 27 2004 : 01:57:38
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Forgotten Battles, Aged. It is quite the update. Well worth the $19, especially if you fly with some of the other guys on a dynamic campaign server... OMG.
Of course, I SUCK so I usually just fly by myself.
Hey you might be interested in this... I purchased a TrackIR of ebay. I was thinking for $30 I'll give it a try. Man I was blown away! In IL-2 FB I don't use padlock view anymore... I just follow the target with my eyes. You have to see it to believe it. It does take a little training though. I've flown twice with it and I think I have it adjusted pretty good. Still getting used to it though. Oh, it works with NR2003 with this nifty little patch I found on BHMS... read the article there about the TrackIR and E-dimensional 3D glasses.
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Novus Ordo Seclorum
Knowledge is power... has been since time eternal. Arcane knowledge is thereby ultimate power and can
therefore lead to ultimate corruption. Wisdom (and the experience that comes with age) is a serum for corruption.
Perhaps that is why there are so many Old Men with Arcane knowledge and so few young ones...
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Posted - Jan 27 2004 : 03:53:50
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okay Arcane , i'll bitee . What is TrackIR? and how does it relate to NK2003? Or do ya have a link to BHMS, ,,..,,..,,..,,..,.. black hole motor sports?
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Posted - Jan 27 2004 : 06:35:14
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Here's a link to BHMS. I'm assuming the search function could pull up the article on it.
Track IR is a peripheral. It consists of a camera sort of thing, a shiny patch sort of thing that you wear on your forehead and some software. The camera watches the shiny patch and changes your view based on your movements. Basically you're using you head like the hat switch in a flying game.
I'll bet it could come in handy in racing. I'd love to be able to glance out my side window to get a better idea where that other car is.
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Posted - Jan 27 2004 : 08:57:23
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I actually put the "dots" on a hat. It works better. You can place them on your glasses too (on the bridge).
There are not a lot of games that support the total effect but the ones that do are excellent.
Of course my favorite FPS, Operation FlashPoint, supports native TrackIR and gives you independent head movement. It is totally awesome to be running one way while looking around. It really changes the overall situational awareness.
TrackIR, SmartNAV, and TrackIR2 are made by NaturalPoint or you can get them at E-Dimensional as well. Being on the budget that I am... I decided I would only pay about $30 for them (normally $119 or so). I just wanted to try it based on a bunch of comments in other forums. Man, I received way more than my moneys worth. I kept looking for them on e-bay and finally one fell into my price range.
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Novus Ordo Seclorum
Knowledge is power... has been since time eternal. Arcane knowledge is thereby ultimate power and can
therefore lead to ultimate corruption. Wisdom (and the experience that comes with age) is a serum for corruption.
Perhaps that is why there are so many Old Men with Arcane knowledge and so few young ones...
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Posted - Jan 27 2004 : 09:28:50
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You see, this thread FINALLY came up with something useful.
Its got that "COOL!" factor that gets me all twitchy.
So Arcane I need to know more about it. How responsive is it? From watching the videos the people looked like they had whiplash they moved their heads so slowly. Is that cu it takes awhile to repsond, or does it respond rapidly and accurately to your movements?
One review said that for flight sims, you have to be careful when lining up ground targets, cu if you move your head you lose your target, but he did work around that.
I'm curious to know how it would work in Battlefield 1942. If I could run around and use my head movements to aim.
Damn you all! Next thing I will have to buy this, then software, then other accessories like awheel and start racing NASCAR or flying again.
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Posted - Jan 27 2004 : 11:46:53
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Originally posted by Festus-OMO
Its got that "COOL!" factor that gets me all twitchy.
So Arcane I need to know more about it. How responsive is it? From watching the videos the people looked like they had whiplash they moved their heads so slowly. Is that cu it takes awhile to repsond, or does it respond rapidly and accurately to your movements?
One review said that for flight sims, you have to be careful when lining up ground targets, cu if you move your head you lose your target, but he did work around that.
I'm curious to know how it would work in Battlefield 1942. If I could run around and use my head movements to aim.
You know Festus, I've actually put a lot of thought into the head movement thing.
When I first set up the TrackIR, it was way sensitive. I would barely move my head and I was looking over my shoulder. That is the "training" part for both the software and for you. After a couple of times (I've used it for about 3 hours total now... in 4 different games) I started to think about my behavior in the game (IL-2 and OFP). I noticed that I was looking around much more, I was looking at guages I never looked at before... I was "checking 6" a hell of a lot more.
I then went for a drive in my car (real life here). I noticed that I didn't hold my head still, I look all over the place... constantly scanning the environment. I sat down at the PC, without TrackIR, and observed my behavior. Although my head moves, not much really, my vision was fixed in pretty much one location.
The TrackIR in IL-2 tracks instantly with head movement. In fact that was one of the problems I had early on. It was too fast and left me disoriented. I had to turn the sensitivity WAY down and limit the total range of movement (kind of like setting a joystick deadzone).
There are still little problems. For one, when ever you move your body it throws off the TrackIR (this is obvious once you think about it as it is establishing a center point based on location in space). It is very easily solved by hitting the F12 key which is the default for "center". I have it configured on my Joystick as one of the buttons. If I get out of position I just press the button and I'm right back to center view.
I'm very impressed otherwise I wouldn't even have posted here. It does have limited functionality though. I wouldn't use it to "aim" in an FPS although I've read that there are folks that do. It is likely sensitive enough to do that but it isn't really natural (doesn't feel right anyway).
Like I said, getting this off e-bay for $30 was well worth it. $119 is pretty spendy and I'm not sure I would pay that much. I would go as high as $60 probably (but then again I'm a cheap bastard). 
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Knowledge is power... has been since time eternal. Arcane knowledge is thereby ultimate power and can
therefore lead to ultimate corruption. Wisdom (and the experience that comes with age) is a serum for corruption.
Perhaps that is why there are so many Old Men with Arcane knowledge and so few young ones...
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