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PacemakerOMO
The Florida Racer!

Posted - Feb 04 2003 :  18:05:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I watched the memorial service for the astronauts today, i'm having a hard time with it. very hard time , you see watching the families in grief the spouses and kids and the hurt that goes along with it. i have not had so much frikin anger in all my life yall , festus ahs the freedom to express it in a way that i want to but cant, its been so lomg ago and this has made the memories fresh like, i resign to the fact that i'll never forget the pain and hurt that goes along with losing someone so close, so this is my little memorial to some one ,


Jill Ann Barber
age 25
survived by her husband Tim and 2 sons Joshua 5, and Ryan 2
cause of death ;dump truck with faulty brakes
point of this: accidents happen every day that are terrible but its life, if i had thought the day it happened that there was any chance of an accident being bad i would have moved heaven or hell to prrevent it,, ht e astronauts go knowing htere is a HUge chance that they may not return, i saw the hurts on hte kids faces, and could see with a knowing of the deepnest of their pain. NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO MAKE A CHOICE TO THAT CAN RESULT KNOWINGLY IN A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF DEATH , HTEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEPRIVE THEIR KIDS OF A CHANCE OF LOOSING A PARENT , every day aciidents are bad enough , i held a 5 year old Josh and tried to explain why his mommy couldnt come home anymore , i held him night after night as he cried hiself to sleep , so my words to NASA is this SCREW YOU AND YOUR PROGRAM, they dont even have enough integrity to send singles, they have more volunteers than they can acceept anyway, i never knew i had this much anger, i wish that i could some how tell the next parent who wants to risk his life as an astronaut, what i think but i think that i would rip their everlasting stupid head off, this may not son=und so good or clear right now, i dont know how ill think about it tommow,, oh most of the older one know of joshua , but the one i never talk about, Ryan?, the shock of him losing his mom was so great , that he never even started talking until he 12 years old, we,ve seen more specialists than ppl even know exsists, and now finally at the age 17 hes finally coming out of that shell he was in ,, so screw you nasa for allowing ppl with kids to fly , i bet it sure makes the kids feel good for ppl to tell them hey its okay your daddy or your mommas a hero






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Festus-OMO
spoon



Posted - Feb 04 2003 :  18:30:26  Show Profile  Visit Festus-OMO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can understand how you feel Pacey. It tears me up to see kids in so much pain.

Its not an easy solution tho. Singles still have parents, still have loved ones, including siblings, nieces, and nephews. The pain would still be there for someone to have to shoulder.

I definitely agree that people with children should think long and hard before they enter into any enterprise that carries significant risk. Not for themselves, but for the children they might leave behind.

It would be nice if NASA, for instance, had a ready supply of complete and utter jerks and amoral scumbags that wanted to do the work and wouldn't be missed if they never came back. At the same time as they improved mankinds future, they would be improving life on earth by being in orbit, and money could be saved using non-returnable vehicles.

Fortunately (?) the type of person who takes on challenges like this is also the type most likely to garner respect and admiration for their efforts. Flip side is that there is great pain and anguish when things go badly.




Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching.
-- Satchel Paige




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CMOpatrick
frequent visitor

Posted - Feb 04 2003 :  20:19:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tim:

i am sorry you have had to go through that sir. may our Lord bring you a quiet peace that lets Him carry this burden that has come again to be so fresh to your heart.

t. patrick o'hara


may there be
turf in your fire,
food on your table,
music in your ears,
friends at your side,
and the Joy of Christ
Jesus in your heart...



Edited by - CMOpatrick on Feb 04 2003 20:22:37

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BackPainOMO
Have Blunderbus, Will Plunder!

Posted - Feb 04 2003 :  22:18:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tim:

Peace be with you. I am saddened by your loss and pain.


"The (Democratic) Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. ... We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" --George Orwell, "1984" - And if you have not figured that out by now with Obama in office, there is no hope.

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Arcane
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Posted - Feb 04 2003 :  23:15:41  Show Profile  Visit Arcane's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What about Policemen, Firemen, folks in the military, pilots...

You are right, Pace. It sure in hell isn't fair to the children that is the plain and simple truth. The spouses... well they have a choice, friends too. But the children do not. I'm not sure what to think about that.

Would I pass up the opportunity to travel in space, knowing the dangers, even though I am a parent of 5 children. Probably not. I come to that conclusion based on the fact that I pilot a private plane... every single time I go up I'm risking my life AND I'm potentially putting my childrens mental well being at risk. I guess the same could be said about each and every time I forget to put on my seatbelt or speed.

It makes you think about your responsibilities doesn't it. I am of mixed emotions because I feel kind of shitty now... but I doubt enough to quit flying... or speeding... or driving when tired... Does that make me a crappy parent?


Novus Ordo Seclorum

Knowledge is power... has been since time eternal. Arcane knowledge is thereby ultimate power and can
therefore lead to ultimate corruption. Wisdom (and the experience that comes with age) is a serum for corruption.
Perhaps that is why there are so many Old Men with Arcane knowledge and so few young ones...

Arcane OMO - Circa 2001

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Retread_OMO
Got Video?



Posted - May 01 2003 :  00:41:14  Show Profile  Visit Retread_OMO's Homepage  Send Retread_OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I dont believe that makes you a crappy parent. But I have noticed that my ways have changed since my first son was born. I drive alittle slower, drink a little less, curse a little less around him and even more away, and just think about things before i do them. My large insurance policy also helps. I feel for all these people also,but there grown and make those decisions for themselves.





I SHOOT DEAD PEOPLE



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