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TLB-Festus
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Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 21:29:19
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Don't know if this is OMO policy w.r.t your server, but I thought I'd make a suggestion.
When players from other groups show up on TLBs server, they are allowed a round, or a map to play together, but if they are owning/raping the regular public, they are politely requested to split up. (if they refuse, a couple are kicked to make the point).
This applies to TLB on their own server as well. We always try to keep a couple of flelas on each side.
Now, it this was a request for you killer OMO to cease such activity, I know you'd take it as a compliment, but unfortunately I am referring to a group who showed up tonight with the tag "=LORD=".
4, mayber 5 of them, but I think 4, teamed up and dominated the server for a few rounds. At first I didn't notice, thinking it was just gonna be one of those nights where I'm always on the losing side. Eventually I did notice these guys, and their squad .
Suffice it to say, it can take the enjoyment out of the game for the casual gamer to allow groups like this to dominat game in and game out.
Anyhow....just a suggestion for what its worth.
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Edited by - TLB-Festus on Oct 25 2005 21:30:39
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BackPainOMO
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Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 22:35:21
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I've run into groups like that before. Hopefully, we look at them and learn about their tactics more than we want to boot them. Sounds like they were also smart enough to know not to wear out their welcome by leaving after a few rounds.
I hear ya, though Festy, tis no fun getting spanked by l33ts.
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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Oct 25 2005 : 23:06:33
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Well, they did seem to leave after we kicked their commander for Artying the Carrier for the third time.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 00:07:01
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It does take all the fun out of the game. Don't much like playing guys like that.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 08:10:54
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That goes along with what Cujo, the tech in Texas that takes care of our server, said. He said when anyone comes on their server and starts causing anything that make game play not fun, they are delt with. We had a group, can't remember they're clan but the one I noticed was everywhere and kept killin me no matter what I did, was JerseyGirl. There were 5 of them and I've seen them on the server before but don't remember them dominating like JerseyGirl did. I think she had something going on that gave her an advantage. Maybe improved armor or an aim bot or both. They stayed about 3-4 rounds and when they left we went back to winning.
I can see the logic behind the idea but don't want other clans saying we always kick winning guys so we can win. We have usually 8-12 guys working together so it makes since we win a lot. When 3-4 guys come in and completely dominate the game I can't help but think they are cheating some way. I usually don't do anything until I go up against someone that aproaches from the front and instantly kills me 4-5 times in a row. This doesn't include snipers, guys you don't see, or ones that are just fast enough to come around a corner and beat you to the draw. I know I'm not the best player and don't expect to beat all the guys I go up against. Some are just really good and really fast.
My point, I'm trying to make, and I've said it before, if I'm already prone and pointing at a guy and sending sort burst at him, and he turns and kills me 3-5 times in a row I'm 99% sure he's got some playing advantage, and they need to go. If I have any doubt I just go on with the game until I'm sure.
I have added a Warn/Kick/Ban reason that says "for quistionable playing". If I think they are cheating but can't really be sure I use this. It doesn't acuse them of cheating but they are gone anyway.
We need to tell each other if someone seems to have an unfair advantage to see if more than one of us notices.
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TLB-Festus
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 09:18:16
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I'm not saying kick 'em all the time.
give them a round as a team, then ask (as an admin) if they would split up to "even the gameplay" for others. If they are reasonable, they will. If they don't like it they will move on, or if they are jerks they will spout off and make your decision easy.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 10:34:11
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if i may...
i'd be carefull with this. the whole idea of joining a clan is to play together. playing with guys you know and like, co-ordinating strategies via Ventrillo or TS2 or ingame VOIP - basically working together. to have clan members join another clans' server and be asked not to play together is a bit weird. i understand not wanting to be owned and if it's 6 or more guys, yeah, get them to split up...especially if that's what your clan does, but if it's only 2-5 guys, personally if i were them, i'd want to play in a squad with my own clan members, or at least a few of them. if you are being owned by them, change strategies, or join a squad and use VOIP or get on OMO TS2/Ventrillo.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 10:54:21
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I agree in principle, but if the gameplay is overly one sided it would make sense to ask the winning clique to split up. That would also apply to OMO, 'though to date, I've never witnessed the OMO side being devastatingly overpowering to the opposition.
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TLB-Festus
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 12:10:15
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I agree Aedes.
My personal tolerance for this starts to end at more than 3 players. After that they can split up into groups of 2 or more on opposite teams.
A group of 4-5 from a competative clan in a squad in a "pub" type server verges on point whoring IMHO. Most competative groups have their own server that they can team up on if they wish. In this case, why don't they? Because it drives players away from their server so they go do it elsewhere.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 16:29:57
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Personally, I could care less if the members of a clan are all on one side and creaming us. So long as it is by good team work then it is a non-issue.
Hacking, on the other hand, should get the violators banned.
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Posted - Oct 26 2005 : 17:34:03
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I like playing head on against other clans on our server.. I'm even in favor of locking the server and kicking everyone else out to play them one on one.
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 07:39:08
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OK Dim or HB one of you guys wanna get the experience of a general for the BCO vs OMO scrim. You can get use the experience to your advantage in the OMO vs BCO scrim that will follow
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 09:50:56
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I was told by an admin of another server that most servers have rules and some guys will go to other servers when they want to break the rules. I don't care if another clan/club is on our server playing together against us as long as they aren't using hacks. When 3 or 4 guys completely dominate the server I don't think they are playing fair. I don't have any way of proving this but how can 3-4 guys completely dominate when we have at least twice that many on every night that work together.
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Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 07:41:44
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I agree with Cath and Petri here. I don't care if other clans stay together even if they do own our server while doing it. It forces us to be better. Hacks and cheats are however an entirely different matter.
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