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Nosehair-OMO
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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Sep 12 2009 : 21:58:53
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Believe me. I am not lying. They are lying.
And... when the facts of the bill are compared to the words and the end outcomes of the bill's provisions, one clearly sees who is the real liar.
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BackPainOMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 00:53:43
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Robert Reich has been a partisan story teller since the early Clinton days. He's a left-wing Kool-Aid maker. The people that listen to him are the ones that just want to be patted on the head, told everything is alright, and to go back to sleep.
btw, I do not know if it is being said or not, but Obama's 2 page "plan" is nothing more than a prop for plausible deniability so that Obama can claim all the crap in the real bill going through congress are not in Obama's plan. Meanwhile, he will keep pushing passing health care reform without directly mentioning what he is pushing is the plan Pelosi and company are trying to shove down our throats. A very Rob Emanual thing for them to do. Lie with the ability to say its not a lie. Smoke and mirrors.
Is that too tough to figure out? Has ANYONE ever seen a government plan for something this big from ANYONE in government that was only 2 pages long? Its a prop. Its an excuse. Its a smokescreen. Its the alibi for the lie.
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 11:53:12
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His speech about the plan was longer than two pages. So... that right there should tell you alot.
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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 13:07:12
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Look guys its time to stop arguing and use some common sense! All these politicians are bought and paid for Left, right, and center. That is the bottom line both parties need to be taken back and made to start working for the people like they were elected to do and not the too big to fail Corporations or we will live in a country run by Corporate interests. Its time for all americans to stop bickering and take their country back!!! Just the thoughts of one who is tired of the politicians and their spin-mysters directing the american people away from the real issues.
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 13:49:19
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Yeah, you ever get the feeling that we're just all pawns in a power play by both sides? without our support neither side can win. As it stands now it's pick you poison. I just happen to be on the side that is less intrusive than the other, that's my person choice. I just assume that all politicians lie, if they told you the truth they'd never get elected.
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 13:55:01
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Another person that made a video and put it on youtube to get his lie out. Take the cotton out of your ears or mouth and put it where the sun does not shine.
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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 13:59:39
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WOW ty Fossil I am used to getting jump on by my opinion your my new spandex hero lol
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Nosehair-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 : 16:56:33
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Never mind
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HEARTBURN-OMO
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Posted - Sep 14 2009 : 06:24:53
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Nosey, your not going to be able to sell your bill of goods here....lol..
Most of us here are not cool aid drinkers and understand what's going on. Personally, I don't get a tingle up my leg when the namd O'Bama is mentioned and I see him and his far left buds for what they are...no matter what they say the proof is in the pudding... Sorry, not going to eat the pudd'n or drink the cool aid...
But, still love ya bra...
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Posted - Sep 14 2009 : 19:57:27
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quote: Originally posted by HEARTBURN-OMO
Nosey, your not going to be able to sell your bill of goods here
You're not going to be able to voice your opinion here either, unless it meshed with anything that's not from a democrat source.
Or at least not to people with open arms and open minds.
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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Sep 14 2009 : 20:07:51
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Why would anyone in their right mind want to give Government, regardless of who is in power, that kind of direct influence over your life? Course, one could say the same about education as well...
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Posted - Sep 14 2009 : 21:43:07
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Im so proud of my conservative bro's. Real numbers on the Washington T.E.A. Party....2.2 million. Nuff said.
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Evil is powerless.....if the good are unafraid. (Ronald Regan) Free speech is intended to protect the controversial and even outrageous word, and not just comforting platitudes too mundane to need protection. - General Colin Powell
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BackPainOMO
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Posted - Sep 14 2009 : 22:51:38
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Sorry, Kayjay. The Democratic sources I am seeing, including Reich and now Obama, have shown beyond doubt that they are habitual liars and deveivers.
You don't get credit for being truthful by telling 2 half truths or 4 quarter truths. You don't get to add them up.
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HEARTBURN-OMO
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Nosehair-OMO
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Posted - Sep 15 2009 : 15:07:02
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btw it's Kool-Aid (not cool-aid)...Big difference, I think.
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