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Older- OMO
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Posted - Jan 20 2006 :  16:02:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok I ran the test.

Final score 1771 Talk about feeling like the turd in the punch bowl.

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Older- OMO
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Posted - Jan 20 2006 :  19:50:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK that number didn't sit well with me. First I defragged the drive. Then I cleared and created a new virtual memory partition in order to get an unfragable space on the disk. Finally I overclocked my nVidia 6800 based on the system recommendation. The end result is a new score of 2355. Better, but hardly a big number. I shudder to think what some of you that have been having performance numbers will get. The test was like watchin a powerpoint slide show at times. Depressing to think my realtively new computer is already so far behind. I will get a new vcard when the prices come down a bit more.

The real test will be improving on the 30-40 FPS (average, sometimes jumping up to the 70s) I have been getting on our server. I have all video and audio set to high with 4x anti aliasing.



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Target
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  09:18:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, I’m downloading the free version right now. What version did you use? Found out about the program in another forum I hang out at (a car forum actually). I’ll post my results this evening.


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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  10:37:57  Show Profile  Visit Catheter-OMO's Homepage  Click to see Catheter-OMO's MSN Messenger address  Send Catheter-OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
3DMark06 Results:

3DMark- 1829

SM2.0- 890

CPU- 1609

Don't know if this is good or bad. The 3DMark05 scores were much higher.

After OCing my video card, a little, using ATITool my score went up some.

3DMark - 1921

SM2.0 - 936

CPU(5% OCed) 1650

My conclusion is my card is the bottle neck but I don't want to fry it. The default cpu card settings are 400 - 490. Mine was only showing 398 so I bumped it up to 425. Mem was at 492 so I bumped that up to 515.



Edited by - Catheter-OMO on Jan 22 2006 15:01:48

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LEVITRA-OMO
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  11:21:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What r u guys talking about?


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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  11:45:39  Show Profile  Visit Catheter-OMO's Homepage  Click to see Catheter-OMO's MSN Messenger address  Send Catheter-OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
3DMark is a benchmark program that rates your comuters performance.


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Older- OMO
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  14:01:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My frame rate did get a bump up to the 40-50 range for most situations. It slows a little when there is arty and lots of action in the area where I am. I get the best frame rates in the plane where it jumps up to the 70s and 80s.

For the others that are interested, you can get a free version from a link on this page: http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark06.shtml

This is the industry benchmark that tests your computers ability to handle current and future 3d graphics for gaming. It is also a way for computer geeks to engage in endless "my rig is better than your rig" dialog. To get the high scores (8000 range), you basically have to have the latest and greatest cpu and component overclocked and maxed out. The high flyers are all AMD cpus, dual graphics cards, 2GB and beyond overclocked memory, RAID SATA or SCSI drives (7200 to 10000 Raptors are popular)and tweaks on multiple aspects of the OS/FS. I did it to see how good my stock system was and unfortunately got hooked in enough to start overclocking (something I said I wouldn't do). It can be an addiction as people chase the impossible dream of having the best setup possible. What's great today is a punch card computer tomorrow.



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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  14:24:36  Show Profile  Visit Catheter-OMO's Homepage  Click to see Catheter-OMO's MSN Messenger address  Send Catheter-OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I want the details on overclocking the video card and any other tweaks you did to gain 600pts.


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Decrepit-OMO
To know me, is to shoot me.



Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  14:39:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow..Talk about watching paint dry. The CPU tests make me want to poke my eyes out. In game frame rates vary anywhere from 65 to 99 depending on the map and action. That is with 4x anti aliasing, sound set to high and most all settings on high with a couple of the lighting set to medium. I actually get lower marks if I over clock the card (Used ATI Cataylst Auto Over Clock Utility). Any guesses as to why?
3DMark 1964
SM2.0 1083
CPU 661



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Older- OMO
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  15:02:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On nVidia cards, you can add a registry entry to turn on additional functionality (called Coolbits) within the Forceware management tool. You can also download scripts that do all of it, but it was easy enough to do myself. Once you have made the registry changes, it adds a couple of menu options to change the speed of the core GPU and the memory. I used the manual method to change and let the Forceware program choose the best speed for me. It raised my core clock speed from 325 MHz to 442 MHz. It raised my memory speed from 600 MHz to 835 MHz. The temperature of my GPU didn't rise after use, so it looks like a reasonable setting.

For the NVidia users, I would suggest the following guide for using Forceware: http://www.tweakguides.com/NVFORCE_1.html
It covers how to adjust your card and has a section of overclocking (the simple stuff). I am implementing all sorts of adjustments that I didn't really look at before. I would strongly suggest that all read it to make sure you understand the capabilities of your expensive graphics card.

He also wrote one for ATI which is probably as good: http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html

As usual, you should be prepared to replace stuff if you choose to go the overclocking route. So far I have been conservative...


Also, if you haven't turned on ClearType for better font resolution (only for LCD displays) it makes a very big difference. I like the look. Here's the link for an online version of the tool. You can also download a version too. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/Step1.aspx


He also has written a pretty comprehensive guide for an introduction to PC performance and optimization. I already implemented the virtual memory recommendations. http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html



Edited by - Older- OMO on Jan 21 2006 15:06:49

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Older- OMO
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Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  17:56:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Decrepit-OMO

I actually get lower marks if I over clock the card (Used ATI Cataylst Auto Over Clock Utility). Any guesses as to why?
3DMark 1964
SM2.0 1083
CPU 661



My guess is you might be CPU constrained. I have a stock P4 3.4 GHz that scored over 1000. I might have had more head room to increase the graphics card.



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Rigormortis-OMO
I may be Stiff but that doesn't mean I'm Dead.



Posted - Jan 21 2006 :  19:42:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't get it. My benchmark scores are lower than anything posted here and my machine is not quite 6 mos. old. I'm running a P4 3.7, 2GB's of RAM, a GF6800 card and 10,000 RPM raid 0 drives. I'm running BF2 at 1280 x 1024 with all the settings on high except for some of the lighting and it runs smooth as glass with no jerks or stutters. I've run it with all the settings on high and not had any trouble. What's up with that?

"When In Doubt, Empty The Magazine"

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Older- OMO
I got my bike at the ScooterStore



Posted - Jan 22 2006 :  01:21:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rigor, I would need to see more of your specs. Your CPU should have done better than 1000. On you full report (still in the free version) did it indicate all your memory modules were the same speed? You may want to check some of the settings on the video card. What are the specs of your card? Your drives sound cool, but they aren't as big a factor as CPU, memory and video card.


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FuddyDud-OMO
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Posted - Jan 22 2006 :  20:12:56  Show Profile  Send FuddyDud-OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I got these results with no overclocking. I think I'll leave it that way for now.

3DMark: 3554
SM2 : 1605
SM3 : 1536
CPU : 925

Now I need to find out what these SM2, SM3 numbers mean. Your twin core CPU numbers look good Cathy.

Hey Rigor, just a thought. If you are using a puchased version of 3Dmark6 you may have setting that are not the default (per the free version) and this affects the 3Dmark score greatly. I'm saying this because I had the same problem with 3Dmark5.



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Older- OMO
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Posted - Jan 22 2006 :  20:32:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Holy cow, tell us more about your system. I am most interested in your video card(s) and memory.


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Rigormortis-OMO
I may be Stiff but that doesn't mean I'm Dead.



Posted - Jan 22 2006 :  20:36:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Fudd, but I'm just using the free version. My in game frame rates are running 35 to 60. All my settings are high except lighting and shadows. Res is 1280 x 1024.

"When In Doubt, Empty The Magazine"

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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Jan 22 2006 :  22:06:04  Show Profile  Visit Catheter-OMO's Homepage  Click to see Catheter-OMO's MSN Messenger address  Send Catheter-OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Fuddy are using 3DMark05 or 06? My scores were much higher with the 3DMark05. Not sure why the new version score is so much lower.

Let us know what the SM2.0 and SM3.0 are.



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SilverbackOMO
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Posted - Jan 23 2006 :  03:08:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ya, whats your system Fud? i get 1591 with mine. P4 3.0 gig, X850 pro with 256 meg, 1 gig a ram. freakin test runs like a slideshow.


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FuddyDud-OMO
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Posted - Jan 23 2006 :  06:45:08  Show Profile  Send FuddyDud-OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Cathy, yes I am using 3Dmark6. When I saw Olders note, I downloaded mark6 last night.
My 3Dmark 05 score was 8128(default settings). However, to get it to run on my system I had to disable 'Apache.exe' which is a requirement of the hardware firewall integrated into the AN8SLI motherboard chipset.

With 3Dmark6 it ran all the way through without any problems... which surprised me.

I'll post my computers system specs here tonight when I get home.

Personally, I don't think it's as much the AN8SLI premium Motherboard, the AMD 4000+ processor or the 2GB of corsair RAM that makes the difference. It has to be the EVGA 7800GTX graphics card.

One important bit of information here, is that the 7800 series cards run hot! too hot in my opinion. They have several clocks that ramp up in speed as the graphics demand increases... can get over 70 C when running demanding applications like BF2 and they say this is normal!
Of course I rejected this notion and proceeded to take off the standard cooler and install a more efficient one with additional forced air cooling for the RAM chips on the undersid of the PCB. This resulted in the card never going above 45 C even on full load and the 3Dmark score improved accordingly.



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FuddyDud-OMO
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Posted - Jan 23 2006 :  07:25:13  Show Profile  Send FuddyDud-OMO a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I've just confirmed that it is the graphics card. Looking around the web forums it appears that anyone with a 7800 GTX is generally getting 3Dmark6 scores over 3000 and it seems very little else is coming close except SLI configured systems.



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Older- OMO
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Posted - Jan 23 2006 :  07:48:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
7800 GTX cards are out of this world. Nice system Fud. Do you have the 256 or the 512? The 512s are listed for around $750. It looks like you can find the 256s for ~300-400. What made you decide between EVGA, XFX and BFG? I am thinking about a 256. Any thoughts on where to buy? I have a 460W power supply, it that enough?


Edited by - Older- OMO on Jan 23 2006 07:59:52

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