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Older- OMO
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 02:15:43
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AGP... that explains everything including your recent declaration of your Italien genetics.
You better hope the dollars roll in...sounds like you are in need of some real enhancement for your aging computer...can't keep UP with your fellow OMO...unsatisfying performance...not enough energy, confidence or stamina during gameplay...it's nothing you should be ashamed of...eventually they all stop working as desired...of course results may vary.
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Specimen-OMO
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 Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 05:03:22
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Originally posted by Bedpan-OMO
To Specimen: she has one more to take, this Tuesday, then the dollars will start rolling in...I hope!
To Cath: I have a decent system now. At least it plays all the games great. Athlon 64 3000@ 2GB of mem, sata drives, 2000 fsb. But it's AGP and my video is an aging Radeon 9800 Pro. So to upgrade I have to do the mobo and video. The CPU and mem can wait.
Hey Bedpan: I think Catheter has an X800 256M Pro AGP sitting on the shelf collecting dust. That will greatly improve your Video performance.
I had a 9600 and upgraded to the X700 pro. Sinced then my scores have been getting better. It might also have something to do with growing experience. I still run an ancient Athalon XP 3200 with 1.5G RAM and a SATA drive.
IMHO If you are losing the majority of face to face unexpected confrontations in BF2, then your video card is not giving you the reaction time you need.
I run the highest resolution set everything to medium except for the dynamic lighting, shading and anti-aliasing. They are set low. I don't play BF2 for the scenery.
Also if you want to build slower, there is a Viper mobo that will accept both AGP and PCI-E.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1953306&Tab=0&NoMapp=0
cheers
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 06:28:46
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I have an AGP X700 Pro and a X800 but it's PCI-e. I'm thinking if you upgrade your mobo to one with a PCI-e slot it may also have a different Processor slot and or diifferent requirements for memory.
2000 FSB? I haven't seen a mobo listed with that high a fsb.
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Bedpan-OMO
Too much coffee, Not a good thing.
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 10:05:01
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Interesting board Specimen! It does fill the gap! Didn't know they even made a AGP & PCI mobo.
Catheter the CPU is 2000FSB: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ / 512KB Cache / 2000MHz FSB / Socket 939 / Venice Core
On a ABIT AV8 mobo Supports AMD Athlon™ 64/Athlon™ 64 FX 939-pin processor
- Supports AMD Athlon™ 64 939-pin processor 3000+, 3200+, 3500+ and 3800+
- Supports AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual-core processor
- 2000MHz system bus using Hyper Transport™ technology
It's a great mobo. I might even buy the AGP version of the Nvidia 7800 GS. Tiger has it for $280. That will bridge the gap too! 
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 10:14:08
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I don't think you will get the same performance from the AGP version as the PCI-e. The port speed is slower so no matter how fast the card is the info wont be transfered as fast as a lesser card on a PCI-e mobo.
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FuddyDud-OMO
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Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 12:10:17
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Finally broke the 5000 barrier with my ageing system. Guess how?
3DMark06 score = 6039
SM2 = 3313
SM3 = 3225
CPU = 975
Time for a better CPU I guess!
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 13:41:55
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Originally posted by FuddyDud-OMO
Finally broke the 5000 barrier with my ageing system. Guess how?
3DMark06 score = 6039
SM2 = 3313
SM3 = 3225
CPU = 975
Time for a better CPU I guess!
You upgraded Baglady's machine by upgrading your machine?
or 2 SLI nividia 7800GT's
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 14:11:04
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Originally posted by Specimen - OMO
3D Mark6 Score...387
SM2.0............181
HDR/SM3.0........N/A
CPU Score........759
System:
AMD3200
Asus K7 board
1.5 G of RAM
Saphire Radeon 9600 W/256M of RAM
Avg Ping in BF2: 60
Now:
3D Mark6 Score...839
SM2.0............407
HDR/SM3.0........N/A
CPU Score........760
System:
AMD3200
Asus K7 board
1.5 G of RAM
ATI X700 Pro W/ 256M RAM
Tuned my PC with System mechanic Pro.
Last night I was losing most of my face to face confrontation sin BF2 so I tuned 'er up.
It'll be good for 2142 if what Fud says the system requirements are holds true.
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FuddyDud-OMO
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Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 16:30:00
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[i]Originally posted by Specimen - OMO
You upgraded Baglady's machine by upgrading your machine?
or 2 SLI nividia 7800GT's
You are right where it counts there Spec. I have in fact upgraded Baggy's machine significantly by kindly donating my EVGA 7800GTX to her cause. Beware, she will now be shooting at you from much greater distances from now on.
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Aug 13 2006 : 07:24:50
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Kindly donating LOL! I guess you wanted to save her the trouble of setting up the new 7950GT as well!
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medicated
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Posted - Nov 16 2006 : 22:44:13
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For those who havent upgraded yet, my old 2.8 ghz P4 with a 6800GT and a gig of ram plays BF2142 smooth as glass. Its watercooled on cpu and vidand OCd to 3.26ghz.
3dmk06 scores...2646
SM2.0 Score...1151
HDR/SM3.0 Score...1009
CPU Score...950
I play on this computer because its just as smooth as my Athlon X2 4800+ @ 2.8ghz, 2 gigs of ram and a 7800GTX.
3dmk06 scores with it are almost double my P4
My vid settings are medium with the lighting on high but the quality is 80% of the 7800 and just as fast.
Im gonna run it till it just aint enough anymore....or I build a Core Duo with a new 8800 GTS for christmas 
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burniste
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Posted - Nov 16 2006 : 23:58:41
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Nov 18 2006 : 10:40:32
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Added a cooler to my card and a few tweaks to settings. This is the best I've ever done:
I found a minor adjustment that made a big difference
3DMark 5613
SM2 2245
SM3 2543
CPU 1660
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Older- OMO
I got my bike at the ScooterStore
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Posted - Nov 18 2006 : 13:21:42
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Burniste, you did that with 7800GTX SLI right? It looks really high for a single card that has 256MB of memory. Even in SLI those look higher than Fuddy's 7950 (can't remember and can't look back in the threads at what he bought...)
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FuddyDud-OMO
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Posted - Nov 18 2006 : 14:52:54
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Look at the processor though. A FX60 dual core is easily able to push any graphics card to it's max. If I had a FX60 in my rig, I bet I could easily get up to 12,000. Until I upgrade I'm happy with my 6844 3Dmark score.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=524132
SM2 = 3787
SM3 = 3800
As you see the graphics scores are higher, but they are restricted by the AMD 4000+ processor. The CPU score is substantialy lower which accounts for the lower 3Dmark score.
Baglady has a 4800 X2 processor and she gets twice the 3Dmark I do on the processor tests. The confusing thing about this particular score is that Baglady also has my old graphics card which happens to be a 7800GTX and her scores are similar to Cathys.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Nov 18 2006 : 15:10:27
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Well I've tweaked everything I know how and I still can't figure how Older is getting 100pts higher on his SM3 scores and I thought we had the same card. My CPU scores are much higher but SM3 much lower. Doesn't add up to me.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 12:46:11
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3DMark 5642
SM2 2263
SM3 2551
CPU 1668
Asus EAX1900XT GPU 682 Mem 1458 All kept cool by Thermalright HR-02 VGA Heatsink.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 14:11:50
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Finally Broke 5700
3DMark 5719
SM2 2294
SM3 2601
CPU 1669
Really makes the SM2 and SM3 jump when you crank up the card memory.
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burniste
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Posted - Nov 22 2006 : 14:19:16
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Originally posted by Older- OMO
Burniste, you did that with 7800GTX SLI right?
ya, Older. the MB is a8n-sli premium, the rest of the parts are
http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MTU5OTQsRGVjZW1iZXIgLDIwMDU=
i dont doubt Fudro could push the chip. this unit is all stock, and water-cooled. i do not OC this one (i do my 2 others) because it is 'our' machine and i can't afford to replace the custom aspects of this particular build.
the vidcards were signed, the case is painted, and the cpu is a production sample. i got it the day they were released. all the fx's are clock unlocked, but mine has a differant number code stamped on it. there are no software/hw hacks or tweaks. the screenie was right after i dwnld 3dmark and rebooted. i'm happy with it, and too scared to mess with it.
btw, i want my tags back...
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Specimen-OMO
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 Posted - Dec 24 2006 : 05:49:01
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Originally posted by Specimen - OMO
quote:
Originally posted by Specimen - OMO
3D Mark6 Score...387
SM2.0............181
HDR/SM3.0........N/A
CPU Score........759
System:
AMD3200
Asus K7 board
1.5 G of RAM
Saphire Radeon 9600 W/256M of RAM
Avg Ping in BF2: 60
Now:
3D Mark6 Score...839
SM2.0............407
HDR/SM3.0........N/A
CPU Score........760
System:
AMD3200
Asus K7 board
1.5 G of RAM
ATI X700 Pro W/ 256M RAM
Tuned my PC with System mechanic Pro.
Last night I was losing most of my face to face confrontation sin BF2 so I tuned 'er up.
It'll be good for 2142 if what Fud says the system requirements are holds true.
Well I tweaked a little more and...well actually I gave up and started ordering parts.
I started by researching Saturday mornings looking at reviews, products and prices. Learned a little on RAM timings, chipsets, CPU's and as well Video Cards.
I started off with AMD AM2 chips and found I could put a pretty good system together for about a $1000.00 using my existing case HD and DVD writer.
And then I started doing the "for a few dollars more game"
With a suggestion from Decrepit, I started looking at Core Duo chips which led to new mobo research.
Here's what I got:
CPU - E6600 Core Duo
Mobo - Asus P5N32-SLI Premium
RAM - Team Extreem DDR2-800 timings 4-4-4-10
Vid Card - EVGA 7950 GT KO Superclocked
Results:
3d Mark Score: 5753
SM 2.0 Score: 2359
SM 3.0 Score: 2307
CPU Score: 2136
Needless to say I'm pleasently amused!
I haven't done any tweaking and how its running I don't thinks there's a need for it. :)
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