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Ishmel
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 Posted - Mar 08 2006 : 18:33:46
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When I start Vent you all hear me and say I sound good.
Then I start the game and all of a sudden you all talk about the static and who ever is doing that fix it.
well it is me, that is why I'm not talking in the games.
When I test the vent it works fine, and like I say before the game loads you all say Im good.
I have my soundblaster 5.1 card in all of the hardware lists chosen and am now at a loss??? of what to do to fix it. An uninstall and reinstall didnt help it either.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Mar 09 2006 : 08:06:04
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Are you running Windows XP. I was running Win2000 for awhile and I couldn't use the in game VoIP and Ventrilo at the same time. Something in the BF2 Audio settings are conflicting with the Ventrilo settings. See what happens if you start the game first. Check the audio settings and post them back here.
Then start Vent and check your audio settings. Post them here too. Maybe we can see something. In vent set the input and output to your sound card. Not the default sound device. Same with mixer setting.
Let us know what happens.
By the way I see you said there were no driver updates in the other thread. If you don't know what brand it is, how did you search for drivers?
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Ishmel
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Posted - Mar 09 2006 : 08:34:16
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Will do, Yes XP with Svc pak 2
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Ishmel
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Posted - Mar 09 2006 : 11:30:42
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My current game settings are:
Audio Render: Software set, The options are: Software, Hardware, Creative XFi
Quality: Medium set, low, medium, high, ultra high
EAX is enabled
Xmit: 100%, Rec: 100%, Mic threshold: 10%
Effects 100%, Music 33%, Voice over 100%,
Ventrillo settings:
checked are:
enable outgoing voice communications
use push to talk hotkey
direct input hotkey
play key clicks
hotkey is mouse 3
codec is none
Output: Soundblaster Live 24bit
Input: Soundblaster Live 24bit
use direct sound for input device is not checked
Mixer: Soundblaster Live 24bit
Mux: Record Control
Line: Microphone
Hardware is set to max (otherwise you say I am too quiet to hear)
Outbound is amplified at 4
Inbound is amplified at 1
I hope this makes sense.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Mar 09 2006 : 13:21:50
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For Game settings. Try changing the renderer to hardware. xmit to 90%
For Ventrilo: start outbound and inbound to 0
The hardware setting is actually your mic setting. The higher it is, the louder we should be able to hear you. I'm not sure where your volume setting is but I keep mine on about 70% It's a little loud when arty drops but you can hear people sneaking up on you.
Make these adjustments and let us know what happens.
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Older- OMO
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 Posted - Mar 09 2006 : 14:25:43
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I have been told you are running a USB headset (this is a no no for gaming) . If this is the case, than software for your BF2 game option is the right choice since USB doesn't leverage any of the soundcards capabilities (which is why you should use a decent (and much cheaper) analog headset.
Ventrilo is another story. My guess is the USB headset itself is the source of the problems. Your Vent settings would be wrong if you set the input and output to your sound card since it isn't using the resources. You would be overtaxing the software sound capabilities by running 2 forms of communications over the limited capabilities of your communication channel. The correct setting might be checking the direct sound option and unselecting all settings that reference the soundcard. You might need a codec, so see if any is available via pull down.
From the Ventrilo site(some parts may not apply to our version):
Research has shown this problem to be either directly caused by XP or a combination of the OS and sound card drivers. Some machines are also prone to generating static when the server is configured to use a 22Khz sample rate vs. the default 11Khz. But even then not everyone will have this problem.
Static also tends to be induced on XP systems if you have more then one program monitoring the same sound card's input device (i.e. using in-game voice comms while using Ventrilo) or if another program in the background tries to manipulate the same sound card's mixer and controls.
There is also a bind feature called "Reset sound input device" which can be used to stop static until the next time it happens. However, you might need to reset it several times to make it actually stop. There will be a 3 second delay after you press the bind and before you can start transmitting again.
Please be advised that the Static and Robotic problems are not caused by Ventrilo. They are either OS or sound card driver related.
1) Try using a USB based microphone.
2) Enable any onboard sound and use it for your microphone input.
3) In setup enable the "Use DirectSound for input device". This might help.
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Ishmel
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Posted - Mar 09 2006 : 18:26:49
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Ok, thanks, I'll try all of the above.
The USB is to power the vibration in the headset, (when a bomb goes off, my ears ring, head shakes)
The earphones are plugged into the sound card, as is the mic.
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Dirtbag-OMO
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Posted - Mar 09 2006 : 18:42:29
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Here's one more thing. When you installed your audio card did you go into the systems bios and disable your Motherboard audio?
It's something I had to do.
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Tread
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 00:58:19
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Actually I use a USB headset to fix my Vent problems..I use to use my front case (old style) plugs, and about half way thru a game I would get all scratchy..Really think it was a sound card issue, since it worked for a long time before.....Now that I run USB..I have 0 problems, other than an occasional mic stick, but I think that has to do with my PTT button....
Maybe a certain combination of things..think of the programs like neighbors, sometimes they just dont get along, say if one neighbor doesnt (cut his grass for 3 months kinda thing)..the setting for Vent may be causing conflicts between BF, Vent and the drivers themselves.
And Im with Cat on the game setting..Change it to Hardware, let the card to the work or its defeating the purpose of having it, It may take some of the burden off the software, so that it works better.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 09:47:51
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Pedro, sound cards are cheap and make a world of difference in game. Creative's 3D sound works amazingly well via analog headphones. The sound difference between a good USB headset and a cheap analop headset/Soundblaster card is not even close. If you have hardware setting, EAX on and high quality, than you have an advantage over someone using USB. I can hear and locate stuff clearly from farther distances with no impact on performance. Software rendering just isn't the same. At best, USBs may be on par with onboard sound, but that is rare with the rigs required to run BF2. Get a decent card for around $100 and fall in love with the sound of the game again. I am headed for a XFi card next.
If you can't tell, I am hell bent on changing the world away from USB headphones.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 09:49:15
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Ishmel, it sounds like you are running into the generic XP/Vent conflict when using both VOIP and Vent. I would disable VOIP and use vent only when playing on our server.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 10:08:07
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I'm using the Plantronics USB headset and it seems to be working OK (at least from my perspective). I'm limping along with a low-end rig and use mostly low in-game settings. The combination of my integrated sound card and passive BF2 freebie headset was not producing enough output for me to be heard, even with my mic and outbound levels maxed out. The USB headset was a good way to fix both possible issues. Now, I have my mic and outbound levels on the low side.
The one problem I have with Vent is that almost every time I play on the large version of Daquing, Vent crashes. Perhaps this new patch will help with that.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 10:41:16
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Older, what would you suggest for a good analog headset/mic.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 10:56:46
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I have been buying Plantronics Audio 90s for less than $20 on amazon. I am on my 3rd pair due to my own negligence. Comfortable, cheap and good sound. I am leary of getting Sennheiser or nicer sets since I am pretty hard on them. Stay away from Logitechs as they will reshape your head.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 11:01:52
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Cadavar, I am now beginning to think your Ventrilo problems are related to your audio setup. It may be that your sound setup has some conflicts with Vent. If you don't use voip, you may want to disable it in BF2. The BF2 freebie had major issues. It is lower quality than the cheapest analogs. See if you can borrow someone's analogs and re-enable your sound card for the game and vent. Makes a big difference for me when dogfighting. Even when I can't see someone, I can hear them.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 13:33:57
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Thanks Older, I'll give them a try.
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Tread
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 19:02:03
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You know Older..I use to have the same theory, till I bought this headset.And Ive had alot of probelems with high end cards.All of my settings are at high, and I have the best sound Ive ever heard in headphones(ever)..granted Im not dropping $260 for top of the line with surround built in, but the $80 I did spend was worh every penny...Yea Id love to get the X-Fi, just to run my Altec sound system, but itll be awhile after spending 2k on this new system.
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Posted - Mar 10 2006 : 20:02:04
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You can get a Audigy 2 card for a reasonable price and enjoy the sounds without any of the issue. I can run TS, Vent and VOIP with no problems at all. I tried every setting with the USB logitech I had (less than 4 hours). The first time I tried them, it was painfully obvious that the sound was different. It was ok, but it was missing the vibrance and the clarity that I had gotten used to with the analogs. USB just can't emulate the power of a card or leverage the specialized code written to leverage Audigy cards.
Xfi isn't happening soon, but I am curious if it will make the sound any better.
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Ishmel
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Posted - Mar 11 2006 : 19:07:29
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Thanks all, I will change hardware and the game settings. I'll keep trying until I find a solution.
Hey Oregonians!!!! I have Monday & Tuesday off next week, if ya want to meet up. also Friday & Saturday
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Posted - Mar 12 2006 : 06:33:20
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Older Ishmel's post of 3/9 18:26:49 says he is running a standard headset plugged into his sound card. So I think his renderer should be on Hardware.
Ishmel on the in-game audio settings turn your mic threshhold down to 1%. For some reason that's the only way mine works. Can you hear yourself when you do the mic test? You can make adjustments and test. Once you get the in-game sound working like you want you can then work on Ventrilo, unless you aren't planning on using VoIP (in-game Voice over Internet Protocol).
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Posted - Mar 12 2006 : 11:43:37
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Yes, hardware would be the correct setting. I would still like to find out wheter disabling the VOIP will help vent.
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