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Specimen-OMO
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 Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 05:27:22
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Ok so all deathmatch does not appeal to all and all domintion/headquaters/sabatoge does not appeal to all either.
Can we put together a rotation with something for everyone?
Perhaps a rotation of changing games and maps?
Lets say for TDM overgrown and city streets.(not back to back of course)
Two maps for Domination are...
Two maps for Headquaters are...
Two maps for Sabatoge are...
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 06:56:27
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Yes balance is the key. Seems like once we start one type of round it goes on forever. I like this idea of switching every round or 2. Switching mode and map.
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Fossil-OMO
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 Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 07:31:22
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No one is ever happy
There are 16 maps with 5 types of game modes, the object is get the right map with the right mode.
Some maps are bad for certain types of game modes,so we just have to figure out what works best for each map and go for it.
Team death match works well for any map, so we could use that to plug in the gaps.
HQ(not a big fan since you have to wait for respawn) works well for any map.
Sabotage. I do like sabotage but it seems like most of the people like to camp the bomb while a few just run their guts out trying to move it. But it is a change of pace so it's good to have in. I like the maps that aren't as wide open to play this though. You haven't lived unless you played a sabotage shipment(j/k). So my vote would be for crossfire and showdown.
Domination. I know people are getting tired of this one since it was in the rotation a lot recently but it's my favorite since it offers the most balance, campers can camp errr defend captured flags, and the run and gun types can capture flags.
The map rotation needs to be done often until we find the right mix and can lock it in. Until we decide I'll mix it up and take out most the dominations.
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 07:39:02
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Ok so we can boil it down to 4 game modes and 16 maps. This doesn't sound impossible. Do you have a list handy of all the maps with a short description?
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Expired-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 08:22:35
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Well HQ is my least favorite. Free for All [FFA] can be fun if the map size matches the people playing. Sabatoge could be the best of all if it wasn't for that "KILL TAG", seems like that defeats the reason for "Hardcore". As for maps I like them all except I have a hard time seeing on "Bloc" and "Shipment".
Heres's a good place to see what the maps look like in Top Down View: http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e269/sharkie24/COD4%20Maps/ 
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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 09:23:41
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Thanks for the link Expired. The default setup I have for the server was faily evenly mixed between Sabotage and HQ with TDM being the majority of the map rotation. It appears someone went in and altered the map rotation with ModernRCON and did not set it back (a server restart will solve that). Not complaining about it, but if you are updating the rotation, please save the original rotation and restore it back after your play session. The randomizer I use in excel does a good job mixing the rotation up.
Now, as for getting down to a core rotation that will make everyone happy as kittens: I am all for it. Lets use all 16 available maps and then select the best mode for that map. Shipment, obviously, is DM map only.
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 09:41:13
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I have made TDM rotations and overwrote what was there. I did not know that you could save the original rotation. I'll be sure to save it next time if I want to change things up. thx
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Cadaver-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 11:16:50
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All TDM = boredom, all Sabotage = frustration, all Domination = tedious...
I prefer the big rotation where every map gets every game type, with obvious exceptions.
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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 12:11:46
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That was the setup I had Cadaver. Restarting server now so it will be reset tonight.
All you have to do is click manually edit and copy paste the data into notepad. Once done, copy it back.
Also, here is the current default rotation:
gametype koth map mp_pipeline gametype war map mp_convoy gametype war map mp_strike gametype sab map mp_bloc gametype sab map mp_backlot gametype koth map mp_vacant gametype sab map mp_strike gametype war map mp_backlot gametype sab map mp_cargoship gametype koth map mp_crossfire gametype sab map mp_farm gametype war map mp_citystreets gametype war map mp_bloc gametype sab map mp_convoy gametype koth map mp_crash gametype sab map mp_countdown gametype koth map mp_overgrown gametype war map mp_countdown gametype war map mp_overgrown gametype war map mp_farm gametype sab map mp_citystreets gametype dm map mp_shipment gametype sab map mp_showdown gametype sab map mp_crash gametype sd map mp_showdown gametype war map mp_pipeline gametype war map mp_bog gametype koth map mp_bog gametype sab map mp_vacant gametype sab map mp_crossfire
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Expired-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 12:18:30
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Thanks Petri- I wasn't sure about that so I leave it alone. I made a doc of your list so I can easily put it back. Perhaps some of us could get together on Vent for a little Recon training.
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Older- OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 12:28:16
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One thing we haven't considered (which I would to try out) is old core mode. It's basically a mix of both Hardcore (must have to eliminate lots of glitching) and Old School (you find weapons and perks on the map) vs. using your custom or standard kits. It could be a way to make the game interesting and get people out of their comfort zone (ie camp with their favorite kit).
Also my preference is to change maps and game types with every round. Don't like to play the same map with different game types in succession or different maps with same game type in succession.
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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 12:38:16
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Old School is fun. I accidentally hit it in ModernRCON the other night and it did make for a nice change of pace.
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 12:49:41
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I'm up for that!
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Stingray
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 13:03:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Specimen-OMO
I'm up for that!
Same here.
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Dirtbag-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 15:21:47
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I'm up for that too.
I would like a round or two of DB Match.
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Geezer_OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 16:24:49
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Do the weapons and perks randomly scatter across the map or do they appear in the same place every time?
Do you get a base assault rife to start with?
I never camp so if it isn't just luck then fine. However, I don't want to die because all I have is an pistol and a sniper rifle trying to kill someone who randomly found a P90.....LOL
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SkidiMark-OMO
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Posted - Mar 04 2008 : 19:35:00
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Can we put in a map with game mode that gives me an advantage?
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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Mar 05 2008 : 03:20:34
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The weapon and perk spawns are not random. Just recall that Old School is not map specific, it is a server setting like Hard Core. Both of which can be turned on and off through ModernRCON prior to the next map loading.
And please make sure you are using the most current version of ModernRCON (0.6 is the most current version. 0.5 was problematic).
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Posted - Mar 05 2008 : 21:14:11
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If it is better, I will use it.
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Cadaver-OMO
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Posted - Mar 05 2008 : 22:40:39
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I tried it out... not sure what the value-add is yet
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