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Bifocal-OMO
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Posted - Sep 08 2009 :  07:38:05  Show Profile  Visit Bifocal-OMO's Homepage  Reply with Quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGJiuhPi1JY

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SkidiMark-OMO
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Posted - Sep 08 2009 :  08:50:23  Show Profile  Click to see SkidiMark-OMO's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
LOL that was great, and an awesome ending

"If you can't stand behind our TROOPS. Please feel free to stand in front of them."


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Kayjay
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Posted - Sep 08 2009 :  15:46:27  Show Profile  Send Kayjay an AOL message  Click to see Kayjay's MSN Messenger address  Send Kayjay a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I want the last 4 minutes of my life back.

Any chance that we could move this to the "too hot to handle" fourms?



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Bifocal-OMO
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Posted - Sep 12 2009 :  09:12:10  Show Profile  Visit Bifocal-OMO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
IT is a joke good gosh spoof joke catch it funny


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Kayjay
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Posted - Sep 12 2009 :  09:21:38  Show Profile  Send Kayjay an AOL message  Click to see Kayjay's MSN Messenger address  Send Kayjay a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
After 46 views, less Skid and yourself, I don't see anyone else who thought it was funny.


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BackPainOMO
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Posted - Sep 12 2009 :  12:30:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought it was funny, well made, took shots at both sides, and may just may not appeal to your thinking.

The funny part was clouded by the seriousness and truth to what was being said. It was intended to have pain mixed with the humor, that is what made it effective.


"The (Democratic) Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. ... We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" --George Orwell, "1984" - And if you have not figured that out by now with Obama in office, there is no hope.

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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  12:09:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hitler, Chavez, Stalin, Zalaya, Guevara, Castro, others, and Obama are all of similar mind: they want to rule the lives of others. The Constitution, what Obama refers to a Negative Rights, was designed to stop people from being such rulers. I say Obama and the Congress are doing what they can to ignore it. Hitler would view Obama as a rival, just as Hitler viewed Stalin as a rival. Castro, Chavez, and Zelaya all get along because they are content to rule their own roost. They just want to spread the 'revolution' so that their power bases are not threatened.

Poor Honduras, being shoved off the cliff because they are sticking to their Constitution. Obama should be ashamed, but he is not. His contempt for the constitutional rights of the Hondurans is clearly seen just as his contempt for our Constitution is clearly seen by his desire to expand government's intrusion into our lives. Certainly it is not the quartering of soldiers in homes, but it is equally invasive and far more subversive to force the population to depend on the government for their very lives.

The post was moved to Too Hot to Handle as it is Political Humor, not just Humor.



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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  12:53:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where were you great constitutional watch dogs from 2000-2008 when GW and company stomped all over our constitution? Just a thought!!!


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BackPainOMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  13:31:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GW was fighting a war did not stomp nearly as hard on the Constitution as FDR did in WW2 and the steps he took were really limited to foreign activities and those with things to hide, so it did not affect me or my family.

You can't compare GW trying to stop terrorists from hurting America and Americans to Obama trying to rule American's daily lives.


"The (Democratic) Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. ... We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" --George Orwell, "1984" - And if you have not figured that out by now with Obama in office, there is no hope.

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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  13:47:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The suspention of habius Corpus which the last pres to do that was Lincoln during a civil war which was worse than FDR and lets see illegal wire tapping on americans as only a few unnecesary during war time so I think he did worse. The party took advantage of a terrorist attack to stomp the constitution or why is GW the only pres in history to make the North American Command Group which was seen as unnecesary to have since all our bases are here! The power Obama has and that is seems all the fuss is about is a direct result of GW and Cheney taking advantage of a situation and now the other party has this power which none of them should of had and now all I hear are complaints that is why I say both parties are not to be trusted is all so lets open our eyes a little. If Obama were to reinstate Habius Corpus like he said he would my opion of him and his party might be different.



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Fossil-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  14:04:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm still scratching my head over the previous post, what suspension of habius Corpus are you refering to? I never heard of that being done by the last administration. Are talking about the Enemy Combatants that aren't subject to the Geneva convention or Habius Corpus? I'd be curious to see links to your references.

How many cases of "illegal" wire tapping against average citizens were there? I'd like to see that stat as well. If muhamand is making overseas calls to Osama I have no problem with the Govt listening in. It's not like they found 500 FBI files of average citizens lost in white house, opps that was the Clinton administration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_FBI_files_controversy



Edited by - Fossil-OMO on Sep 13 2009 14:07:54

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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  14:07:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok Fossil you just had to spoil the moment didn't you lol


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Fossil-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  14:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just keeping it real my friend! lol



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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  14:26:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Keep it real but I will be the first to point out the deceptions of both sides not just the side I mostly disagree with Clinton did alot to hurt this countries manufacturing base and Bush ran with it after that. Every administration in the last 30 yrs has taken a little of our freedoms away and now we are seeing the results of this take over by Dems and Reps alike we are pawns like you said and if this continues we shall all be sorry is all I am saying and habius corpus did not just cover enemy combatants it pertained to all of us and now it is still suspended which is wrong.


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Fossil-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  14:43:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's suspended? really? please cite your reference please, that's interesting.



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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  15:32:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok here is a few you know I am trying to watch the Seahawks kill St.Louis lol

http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/2006/092606HARTMANN.shtml

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/habeuscorpus.htmhttp://themoderatevoice.com/26650/channeling-abraham-lincoln-george-bush-their-civil-liberty-power-grabs/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/02/obama-looks-revive-military-courts-guantanamo-bay/

is this enough I even included a fox news item about Obama there you go.






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Nosehair-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  16:33:12  Show Profile  Send Nosehair-OMO an AOL message  Reply with Quote
atta boy Bypass

They have a justice system in place in Iraq. I'm not suggesting that we treat our previous president like they treated theirs, but Saddam did feel justice as the rope tightened.
I have not heard of any public figure that says the health care system here should be left alone btw. It's just that W had a different agenda.

Question: Did the Nazi's deserve to have trials for their war crimes at Nuremberg?



Edited by - Nosehair-OMO on Sep 13 2009 16:55:45

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Fossil-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  17:43:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gratz on the Seahawk win!

Ok so W suspends habius Corpus against terrorist, I thought you meant US citizens. The enemy combatants could be defined as Mercenaries and they shot those with out trial in WW2. Why anyone cares about the rights of people that would strap a bomb on to a kid and have him detonate it in a crowd of shoppers in a market is beyond me. The fundamental difference between the two camps has been one side wants to charge the terrorist as criminals, the other side wants to detain or kill them.




Under Article 47 of Protocol I (Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts) it is stated in the first sentence "A mercenary shall not have the right to be a combatant or a prisoner of war."

On 4 December 1989 the United Nations passed resolution 44/34 the International Convention against the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries. It entered into force on 20 October 2001 and is usually known as the UN Mercenary Convention[19]. Article 2 makes it an offence to employ a mercenary and Article 3.1 states that "A mercenary, as defined in article 1 of the present Convention, who participates directly in hostilities or in a concerted act of violence, as the case may be, commits an offence for the purposes of the Convention."[20]



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Bypass-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  17:50:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TY Nosey

Answer: yes they did

Question: Did the nazi's deserve all thier human rights violated and stripped and then tortured? Even though thats what they did to people.




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Fossil-OMO
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Posted - Sep 13 2009 :  18:09:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apples and Oranges my friends.

You can't compare Uniformed soldiers who fought for a sovereign nation vs cowards who disguise themselves as citizens and fight for an ideology. The right thing to do would have been to shoot them in first place and save the tax payers some money. sounds harsh I know but what are you supposed to do with people that entice others to strap bombs on to themselves and detonate them in market?



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Petrified-OMO
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Posted - Sep 14 2009 :  19:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally, I think GW was a RINO.

He never used his Veto Pen except once and that was a few years ago. He pretty much passed whatever congress - mostly Democrat controlled since 2002 sent to him so saying he was not great doesn't ruffle my feathers. He was pro-amnesty, no matter what he wanted to call it. He signed the idiotic McCain-Feingold bill which limits free speech.

Now, on the other hand, the wire tapping was narrowly defined on paper and permitted by the Democrats in control while he wanted to keep it going (cause you don't hear them complaining about it now that O has control over it). Sure, they made a good show about opposing it, but knew they would have the power passed to them once he left and if they gained control of the House.

The only positive thing he did was call spades a spade after 9/11. Then he failed to follow through on taking out the axis of evil.



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