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TLB-Festus
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 Posted - Apr 29 2006 : 15:48:06
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I'm going to re-iterate a suggestion made by Bloody a few weeks back with regard to your BF2 server.
While I have it marked as a favorite, I'm disappointed to see that the quality of player seems to be declining. No doubt it will increase if I start playing elsewhere (beat you to it.).
OMOs tendancy to "side up" with themselves and regulars often, not always, leads to lop sided matchs. I hae something else to say about this but have decided to PM it rather than post it in your public forums.
Now I have, more often than not been on the recieving end of this, and until recently I have played along. Figure most of you really like shooting a former friend and OMO.
Recently I've grown tired of it to the point that I'm starting to visit other servers or choose to play other games (silent hunter, Civ 4, Starwars Empire at war, etc).
Again, its your server run it the way you want, but I can't help but wonder if other "quality" players aren't choosing different servers lately as the teams I've been on seem awfully inexperienced.
Just an observation.
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Apr 29 2006 : 16:28:15
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Thanks Festus:
Last night it was really lopsided, didn't lose once. Don't get me wrong I luv the wins but maybe we're getting too good as a team on the rank server.
Before all of us on one side seemed like a detriment. A 50-50 crap shoot. Maybe it is time to pepper both sides. I know we all have favourite OMO's we like to work with. Spice things up.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Apr 29 2006 : 17:44:24
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I was thinking the same thing Specimen but I wanted someone else to post first. I know everyone is getting better but the real problem may be that we have so many OMOs now. When I joined it was only about 5 or 6. Now we take up almost the whole side.
Maybe it's time to come up with a solution to even it up a bit.
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Corroded-OMO
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Posted - Apr 29 2006 : 18:22:52
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Yeah I agree festus, sometimes when Xanix and I play against the other OMO's It seems lopsided at times. Mainly because the side we are on are way too disorganised and there is no communication between squads. (If there is even a squad on that side) I think what specimen said is best. Spice things up a bit.
Maybe even split up OMO into teams. Kinda like divisions sorta. Lets have Nosey and Fuddy create rosters and lets join up. =P RED vs. Blue, Younger vs. Older OMO's The OMO Ruffnecks vs The OMO Warheads. LOL. Just some crazy ideas to work with.
Yes I have issues
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TLB-Festus
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Posted - Apr 29 2006 : 20:00:38
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Thats the basic problem.
You guys have improved in skills and numbers. When you flood one side of a match, and are all on ventrillo working together its no contest.
The sides I'm playing on do not team up, do not communicate, don't listen to the commande,r will not "squad hop" to capture rear bases.
While I understand the enjoyment of playing together, keep in mind its a "ying-yang" sort of thing. While you are enjoying the hell out of yourselves, the other side is not.
This doesn't mean you always have to split up, but you might want to be aware of this. It used to be that on your server I would find decent squads, and some cooperative efforts. Lately the caliber has dropped noticeably.
EDIT--- returned 5 hours later to find it a rape festival again. At the very least split your pilots up, on air maps its brutal.
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Nosehair-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 06:35:42
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Often been my postion, although it is NOT a good idea to agree with Festy. I like killin' OMO with the best of'm. Let's try it more fo shore. We can still do the lopsiding when the spirit moves us. There are so many of us now that it can be excessive. My only request would be that Festus be on the other side ;).
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Bedpan-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 08:35:37
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Festus identified the key difference and it's not just all OMOs on one side. It's Vent! Vent allows us critical communications. If we had a working VOIP where the other side could communicate then I'd bet the Vent advantage would be lessened. So while I do love killing the Fudsters ;^) I'd prefer to stick together. My 2 cents!
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Stingray
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 09:12:57
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Originally posted by TLB-Festus
I'm going to re-iterate a suggestion made by Bloody a few weeks back with regard to your BF2 server.
While I have it marked as a favorite, I'm disappointed to see that the quality of player seems to be declining. No doubt it will increase if I start playing elsewhere (beat you to it.).
OMOs tendancy to "side up" with themselves and regulars often, not always, leads to lop sided matchs. I hae something else to say about this but have decided to PM it rather than post it in your public forums.
Now I have, more often than not been on the recieving end of this, and until recently I have played along. Figure most of you really like shooting a former friend and OMO.
Recently I've grown tired of it to the point that I'm starting to visit other servers or choose to play other games (silent hunter, Civ 4, Starwars Empire at war, etc).
Again, its your server run it the way you want, but I can't help but wonder if other "quality" players aren't choosing different servers lately as the teams I've been on seem awfully inexperienced.
Just an observation.
To be honest, it's one reason I haven't jumped on the OMO server in a while. Like playing with you all, but your all getting better and it shows.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 09:44:23
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I didn't come in until around 11 last night. I just let the server put me on which ever side it wanted. After a couple of rounds we all got on the same side and even though one round was close the others were won by 200+ points. This wasn't fun. I think my last round I had one kill and one death. Never saw any action.. I find the closer matches more fun.
This is my suggestion. If we start dominating that bad, a couple of OMOs volunteer to help the losing side. I don't mind doing this at all. I noticed Respirator was on the other side and I should have gone over to help but I was tire and wasn't planning on playing long anyway.
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TLB-Festus
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 10:26:17
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Yes, having working VOIP would be nice, especially as was pointed out that you have ventrillo for voice comms.
I know that there have been some issues getting VOIP to run and I think TLB fixed it by running the VOIP on another server or somesuch thing. I can find out or put you in touch with our resident server admin if you want.
Oh yeah, take the "rapefest" comment with a grain of salt. It was late, I was tired, and its probably just "that" time of the month.
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FuddyDud-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 10:31:17
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Why did it have to be Festus to bring up a valid point?
Yes Festy, as you so rightly admit, you do lower the quality of the OMO server considerably. However, this is more than compensated for by the pleasure you give all OMO by playing on the opposite side. Please continue to do so.
It is cool playing with the "opposition" when the skills aren't too weighted to the OMO side. BagLady and myself always get a few seconds pre-warning before being killed; there is a conspicuous, weird sort of chuckle that comes through the headphones in advance of the moment. It is good to know that you're contributing to the enjoyment of fellow OMO just by appearing in their targeting sights. Right BedPan?
I think BCO have adopted a good working arrangement by forming a regulars team affiliated to BCO. Maybe we should do the same for regulars so that they might become more organised (just like OMO haw haw haw) and feel part of a team.
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 10:36:12
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Originally posted by TLB-Festus
Yes, having working VOIP would be nice, especially as was pointed out that you have ventrillo for voice comms.
I know that there have been some issues getting VOIP to run and I think TLB fixed it by running the VOIP on another server or somesuch thing. I can find out or put you in touch with our resident server admin if you want.
Thanks Festus, it would be nice to get that working right, maybe with our new server.
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Catheter-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 10:45:12
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Cujo also mentioned the VoIP being problematic. I think he's hoping it will be better on the new server too. He's tried everything and even using an external VoIP server. It just doesn't seem to want to work 100%.
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CackNBallz
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 11:13:49
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Yeah VoIP always works for me, it's just a matter of the other n00bs not wanting to communicate back. It was really bad on Great Wall where we only had one or two squads. Even worse was that they were snipers, and not killing much because a lot of you guys were in armour.
The only respite of having fun was blowing up Dementia's assets constantly and when I could hear him knifing knifing the tires of my APC, got him the first time, but not the second time (he must have been holding E.) I only had one C4 pack on me or else I would have blown him up! 
But yeah, the other side was terribly disorganized, didn't communicate, our commander didn't set objectives but at least he seemed to support me once he realized I was the only one doing anything worthwhile.
Oh, and since I have gotten all my Expert Combat Badges, it's time to get back to my Spec Ops roots and you OMO guys better expect to have C4 on your armour from now on. You are no longer safe. Bwa hahahahahahahahaha *cough cough hack cough* I'm ok I'm ok.... *clears throat* hahhahahahahahahah!!!!
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IcecreamLtDan
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 13:33:04
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I find myself playing your server less and less for some of the same reasons posted here but, I have another issue to. You guys have strict rules about base raping and attacking uncappable flags with artillery and I have no problem with that, but lately there has been times where I have been artied or otherwise attacked on the uncapped and, when I mention it, the response is, "Well, we're not the commander" or something along those lines.
Now, don't get me wrong, when a SF guy shows up to blow up the commanders assets and is confronted I don't expect him or her to throw down their weapons the second they're found out but, I also don't expect to get killed by a stolen tank everytime I spawn on the uncappable to the point I have to spawn elsewhere.
Now, as I said, I have no problem with your rules on that, but keep in mind I imagine it's very hard to enforce those rules so when I or someone else mention it on the server the "Well, we're not the commander" is not exactly going to make me, or others want to play on the server.
Just my two cents.
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Ishmel
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 14:33:03
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You guys have taught me a lot about the game, stratigies, team playing, and techniques. I find it fun to be on the "loosing" side against you and listen to you when I occasionally get a good kill :)
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Specimen-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 15:37:36
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Ok now that is Four regs that have pointed this out. The're right. I was on the non OMO side and the organization of the team was not there. Nobody listening to the commander, nobody going for flags, squads not sticking together, and yes a blow-out despite my best efforts. surprise. surprise.
If we don't start dividing up on a regular basis, we will be playing against an unorganized whiney hoard. Or eventually play against OMO's for a good game without our skilled regs. We need them for tight challenging games, and to continue with sharpening our skills.
I'ld prefer to work with the likes of Target(aka Stingray), IceCreamDan, Ish, Bloody, Brass Monkey, that slimy guy seargent (can't remember his name) Qfoos, AdmiralSpi, Nardisp, or even Festivus than the disorganized bunch that was on this afternoon.
Oh BTW, the Voip seems to be working ok on our new server. This could be a lot of fun. Voip for team coordinating and Vent for slams and digs!
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CombOver-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 18:08:28
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I was playing that night, was was on the losing side for 3-4 rounds; during which I commented more than once that the teams were more than a little lopsided to no avail.
I wonder if it is possible to have a script or something that would randomize the teams after one team wins say 3 in a row?
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HEARTBURN-OMO
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 19:48:35
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Well, I appreciate everything everyone has said. I have been on both sides. I don't want anyone to leave the server for ANY reason. However, if I really wanted to play with a bunch of unorganized players, I would go to another server. We tried the split team tonight. For the first few rounds there were only a few OMO (2-3) on my side and I was killed a record 40 times, even got the Purple Heart.
Sorry, but, that's not my kind of fun.
I would suggest the regs run together in squads if they find themselves on the opposite side of OMO. If there's 10-14 OMO's we might need to split up. However, when it's 3-8 we're no different than any other squad.
Again, I am not trying to start anything here, I enjoy playing with the OMO's and the regs. I play with them, I support the server, and I do what is necessary to make sure capped bases don't get arty'd, bombed, or straiffed on both sides. In fact, I told several or out team members camping the enemies capped base with 2 tanks and 3 APC's tonight. I'm not aware of many group servers where the owners/clans split up. Maybe at first, then eventually, they all end up on the same side.
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TLB-Festus
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 20:11:17
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Actually, for the better clans HB, they do split up in order to encourage a fun game and return visits.
I have no problem with 3-4 OMO playing together, but when its 6, 8 or more...theres the problem.
Again its your server run it the way you see fit but in the end if its continues to be Squad practice for OMO, then you stand to lose your regular players and settle for the "drop in' kind. They will play awhile, get biatchslapped around, and then leave. No worries, another one will fill the slot, but the caliber of player will drop.
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