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For those who dont know the man I can only say give him a equal chance by researching him as much as the 3 stooges. Watch the youtube videos of him lecturing the Fed Res on constitutional principlas of fair practice. A Statesman in action. The only one running. Possibly the last chance we have to do it right. Even if im wrong the principal of my choice is correct.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/22/magazine/22Paul-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/news/
The alternative. The one that wont just go away.
The one they dont want in. The one that will blow the cover off the real situation this country is in. The only one with the credentials to accomplish the changes we need to repair the problems. The small government man. Real protector of the constitution. The only honest person running. The only candidate with a real job. A true statesman. A real person.
And if you dont agree thats ok. But if you research it a little logic takes over.
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 05:54:14
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It's ok to be frustrated. Just don't go down the same road as the other side "We know how to run the country and YOU don't" self righteous *&^%$#@
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 06:51:31
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How about that Steve Harper?
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 08:55:58
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I'm just frustrated with all the extremist labelling (and, really all the simplistic labelling as well) that's going on. I'm also frustrated with all the right wing demogoguery that still exists. I've had enough of that garbage for a lifetime. Enough with the namecalling, mudslinging and baseless accusations already!
(I'll see you and raise...)
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 09:11:52
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And somehow I feel like a toddler, weeving my way through the legs of giants.
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 09:45:03
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Which side is the other side Nose????
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 12:24:47
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TAKE COVER!!!!!
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 12:26:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Aged
I'm just frustrated with all the extremist labelling (and, really all the simplistic labelling as well) that's going on. I'm also frustrated with all the right wing demogoguery that still exists. I've had enough of that garbage for a lifetime. Enough with the namecalling, mudslinging and baseless accusations already!
(I'll see you and raise...)
Amen brother!
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 12:27:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Kayjay
TAKE COVER!!!!!
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 13:14:42
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I'm talking about the right side BiF. You can talk about the left side in a similar way though if you wish. Obama is way left for sure, but at least he has inspiration and genuine outsider status. Let's face it, Hillary and John are waaaaaay too deep in the muck to actually come up with anything remotely radical. That's what we need to shake up the establishment imho. I really wish we could get term limits set so guys could actually DO something instead of pander to those that give the most $ to keep them in power.
I hate for the GOP side, W has really blown their whole image. Talk about spending. OMG
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Fossil-OMO
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 15:56:26
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I knew I'd ruffle a few feathers with my last post
But seriously, What qualifies Obama to be President? He's never ran anything! Neither has John McCain but at least he's ran nothing longer than Obama.
Medi I'd almost vote for Ron Paul if I thought he had a chance, but I can't afford to gamble on Obama winning.
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 16:09:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Aged
I'm also frustrated with all the right wing demogoguery that still exists.
??? On which point of demagoguery?
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 16:43:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Fossil-OMO
I knew I'd ruffle a few feathers with my last post
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Aged
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 17:07:05
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regarding right wing demogoguery:
I'm not going to point a finger at anything (or anyone) in this post.
The current administration continues to expect us to believe that the war in Iraq has somehow made us safer. (Perhaps the continued occupation of Iraq keeps us safer than abandoning it.) However, a review of the actual situation prior to our invasion reveals that the evidence supporting this administration's decision to invade was weak at best and accompanied by an almost complete disinterest in any evidence that didn't support invading.
Right wing extremists seem to answer any questioning of why we're in Iraq with by claiming that people doing the questioning are unpatriotic.
This is one example of the right wing demogoguery I see still in far too much abundance.
The notion that conservative political views and morality somehow go hand in hand is another. Heck, Ann Coulter claims that liberals can't even qualify as Christians. Ok, maybe she's really just some comedienne spouting bs for attention, but some people (and yes, I've met a few) actually believe this sort of nonsense. Can you say dittohead?
As an aside...
I used to admire John McCain. If he'd stuck to staying John McCain, instead of pandering to the far right constituancy of the current administration, I probably could have found myself voting for him (if Clinton were the Democratic party's nominee) - even though I don't agree with many of his positions.
As for Ron Paul, he's the plain, unvarnished conservative. I respect that as well. However, his views of the role of government don't mesh with mine in fundamental ways. I'd love to see a "Ron Paul of the left" in this race.
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 18:36:54
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Very well put Aged and I agree with you. Most everyone makes statements that cover a very broad range of issues that IMHO are waaaay too complex.WE DON"T REALLY KNOW WHAT GOES ON. None of this is left or right up or down. Do I support Bush? Yes. Do I agree with all he's done? Most of it but not all.
I sure wish we the people could get some real info, other than what the media wants us to know.
All said and done. I have no hard feelings for anyone left or right. I just like to get along with people, and bend to do so.
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 19:04:09
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I have no hard feeling for the views others have, I respect them completely! I'm just choosing the lesser of two evils(IMO of course) when it comes to picking a president. Neither would be my first choice, I didn't see any that I liked from either side.
I do like the fact that Bush (errr US Armed Forces) kicked some much needed ass after 9/11. After turning the cheeks during the Clinton Administration I was tired of getting kicked around and we were running out of cheeks! The fact is we haven't had any terrorism in the USA since 9/11, you have to give Bush credit on that front even if you can find faults on many others.
If you guys feel now the way I did during the Clinton administration "I feel your pain".
The last Democratic Administration left a bad taste in my mouth (As well as Monica's)
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 20:10:10
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Give Bush credit for attacking a country that didn't even attack us give me a break. On 9/11 5 of the terrorist were Saudi's did we attack them NO! The others were based in Afganistan and we attacked there only half heartedly. As a Vet of the U.S. Army I am all for kicking ass but lets kick the right ass please.
I was an Army cook and a Combat Bridge engineer and I am very offended by Haliburtine (hope I spelled it right) getting no bid contracts so our military is crippled because this company would not go into a war zone to do their job and support our troops as the contract stated.
Could somebody explain to me why we also need a private army in the U.S.A. (Black Water) they are in Iraq doing what our marine's used to do but messing it up at the same time attacking civilian's and our govenment also sent them into New Orleans instead of the National Guard to keep the peace. Do we only need young men for cannon fodder and let private corps get rich by not doing their jobs I think NOT!
Oh goodness there I go again.
I see your 3 and raise you a 4th
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Aged
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 20:32:38
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Bypass, it's so good to find out I'm not completely alone.
I was afraid I'd need to take my views underground ... wait a minute ... skip that last part, it could easily be misinterpreted. 
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 21:19:17
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Aged you have never been alone, I am there for ya buddy I just never let people know I acually pay attention gives me a bad rap ya know. lol Guess the cats outa the bag now heh heh.
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 21:52:11
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Halliburton. Founded in Duncan OK just a few miles from where Chuck Norris was born. I think he was a secret experiment gone array.
Brown Root a subsidiary of Halliburton held the contracts for providing meals. I'm not going to defend them but have you been on a military base recently? Most of the security is contracted out as are the meals. When I got out in late 90's they were in a transition of going to contractors, my job was in process of being contracted out and that was under Clinton. It was cheaper to use them on a "as needed basis" then to have the military do it full time.
Congress voted to invade Iraq, even Hillary voted to go and so did John Kerry (before he voted against it)(what ever the hell that means). I know it was based on "Bogus" evidence but it was supplied by a CIA that was full of Clinton left overs, Bush played nice and didn't purge it after he took office.
The fact of the matter is..WE HAVEN'T BEEN ATTACKED ON OUR SOIL SINCE 9/11. We took the fight to them.
Was Al Qaeda there before us? Thats unclear but they're there now and we're killing them and bringing them in. Here is the latest http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/08/iraq.alqaeda/?iref=mpstoryview
Al Qaeda was allowed to flourish under Clinton and will again if we pull out of Iraq.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3346386.ece
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