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HEARTBURN-OMO
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Posted - May 08 2008 : 22:20:16
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That's funny. No mention of the guys capture on the evening news. Oh, and that's the first I've heard about the letter and that was a month ago. Wonder why? A little tid bit.....when they audited Haliburtons books they had been paid millions up to that point. Their profit? 700k. To be honest and if you really knew what Haliburton was doing, they are the only company in the US that can do what they do at that magnitude. I guess they could have farmed all that needed to be done to the lowest bidder and/or favor a small mom and pop or a minority business......but, no that wouldn't be very efficient either..
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Dirtbag-OMO
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Halliburton. Founded in Duncan OK just a few miles from where Chuck Norris was born. I think he was a secret experiment gone array.
Brown Root a subsidiary of Halliburton held the contracts for providing meals. I'm not going to defend them but have you been on a military base recently? Most of the security is contracted out as are the meals. When I got out in late 90's they were in a transition of going to contractors, my job was in process of being contracted out and that was under Clinton. It was cheaper to use them on a "as needed basis" then to have the military do it full time.
Congress voted to invade Iraq, even Hillary voted to go and so did John Kerry (before he voted against it)(what ever the hell that means). I know it was based on "Bogus" evidence but it was supplied by a CIA that was full of Clinton left overs, Bush played nice and didn't purge it after he took office.
The fact of the matter is..WE HAVEN'T BEEN ATTACKED ON OUR SOIL SINCE 9/11. We took the fight to them.
Was Al Qaeda there before us? Thats unclear but they're there now and we're killing them and bringing them in. Here is the latest http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/08/iraq.alqaeda/?iref=mpstoryview
Al Qaeda was allowed to flourish under Clinton and will again if we pull out of Iraq.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3346386.ece
THANK YOU! FOSSIL!
EXACTLY
I do get tired of the BS coming out of Washington. On both sides. But people forget why we went to war to begin with and who accepted the reasons. Fossil hit the nail on the head with the Clinton left overs in the CIA that gave the intel. But forget that. Lets just make it easy and blame the right side or maybe Just the President.
Raise the pot a couple more. Make that 10 more
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Nosehair-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 06:09:41
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This could get ugly if we all dig in and "fight" for our view to change others. I'm up for attraction rather than promotion. Left Right my @$$. I am truly grateful for the right to express my views and do listen to both Rush Limbaugh and NPR. I'm not confused just interested in all views. My views are not pigeoned holed into left OR right. My hope is that Obama is the real deal and CAN bring us back together, focused on the nation not a side. I actually heard the truth on the tv the other day about Iraq. I can't recall where it was, but someone had the BALLS to state that we need a stable supply of oil. Plain and simple. I'm not sure how W could have packaged that message before the invasion, but he chose not to try and instead thought he could BS the world. Bill might have been able to pull that off, not George.
And Yo Aged I see a bunch of us that're on the "right" side. You are not alone. The divisions are set only to keep individuals and parties in power,
not for the benefit of the United States of America.
HB I'm not touching your defense of Haliburtin. You are an instigator and agitator. There is no defense for No Bid contracts, the requirements for the bidding process are well written in the laws of the land (oops I guess I touched it).
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Bifocal-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 06:45:39
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OK, Let me start with mr. obama. obama has not done anything at all for this country. Hillery is more qualified than he is, and she is not qualified. As for the right side, I am finding it hard to deside where the right side is. I don't depend on the news media for my answers. I have tried to talk to the people and they won't let me. I tried to get in to talk to obama and was turned away.
Obama, is all about Solicist government and has even stated that if the muslims attack he will side with them. This is not the American I want to run the country. He is also a racist. Read some of his book. He stated that he will change the white house because of the name. He wants to sit down with the leaders of those radical muslims and talk with them. That is not a good idea.
If he gets in we are in for a hard time. Taxes will go thru the roof and will also with Hillery. I am really put out with all 3 that are runing. If Ron Paul and his view on government was differant I might have voted for him.
The fact is, If we vote the wrong person in Nose, that rifle you are looking to buy might have to be put to use if you can see the changes. Your freedom is on the line, All of our freedoms are on the line and the way we live. You can say what you want but they are. If people can't see that we are doomed.
We have lost our backbone and for some reason put blinders on. Aged, you make some good points and I agree with you on some and disagree on some, but never have had hard feelings for you or any other here. I enjoy the forums and the fellowship we all can have here. That is freedom. One day in the future we might not be able to have this.
Take a look at what you have today, what you had 40 years ago or 30 for some and look where we are going with our freedoms. Those that believe in our faith have to yeild to those that don't want to hear about it but they can push theirs on us. That is one freedom. The right to protect ourselfs is being threatened daily. Read the forums at the NRA and see the bills from each state.
Our rights are going down the tube because we do not follow the founders of this country and the belief that we can make a differance. We sit on our butts in fear to voice I WILL NOT STAND QUIET IN THE CORNER AND SUBMIT TO YOU TELLING ME NO TO MY RIGHTS.
The voice of the majority is not being heard. It will be heard one day and I hope that is not to late.
I figure I will talk about Iraq later. I am getting emotional with this one lol
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Bedpan-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 06:53:26
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Originally posted by Nosehair-OMO
"we need a stable supply of oil."
You know what sucks is we might get some oil from Iraq, haven't SEEN any though, but who does that benefit? Not you and me. The oil companies. If we were getting cheap/free oil from Iraq then why are we paying $3.60/gal????
So, we invade a country, occupy it, pay BILLIONS of our dollars FIXING what we BROKE and we, the American tax payer get what? Broken economy, Katrina ravaged areas still not fixed, power/$$ hungry oil companies making BILLIONS of $$ per quarter and WE GET $3.60/gal. WTF
You say we haven't been attacked since 9/11. How the heck do you know. We are told what they want us to hear and what makes money. The only good thing out of all this crap is a better educated and prepared military. Our awesome ass-kicking military is learning how to fight a different kind of war, learning, growing stronger. growing smarter. I ask you though, is it worth the death of 3000+ men and woman and tens of thousands wounded? I don't know.
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 08:34:37
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Bif said: quote:
Obama, is all about Solicist government and has even stated that if the muslims attack he will side with them.
Bif, If you can show me factual evidence that he made that statement "in context" then you will get my vote for McCain even though I can't stand him [due to his present views not his past views].
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 09:03:55
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Group Hug!
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Bifocal-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 09:28:46
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Expired, He has never said I want or will support a Socialist Government. Neither did Hitler or stalin. They did it. Have you read any of obamas books. You should if you haven't. Listen to what he is saying. He is big government. Universal Health care which is paid for by you. He has said in his book If America and Islam have a problem he will side with the muslims. What more do you need.
I appreciate your view and all 3 are big government, but McCain is the least big government. He will secure the boarders. You have to decide who you will vote for and that is good I have to decide for myself and I just am voiceing what I have read. Obama is bad news for our country. He will take it down. He has not given a straight answer yet, but none do lol.
Also I am in for the group hug. In a year after his takeing over we might not be able to talk like this anymore. I like to be like the fox on top of the hill looking around and not the hide on the barn wall being cured. Read and research Real good all the runners. Also be prepaired. We might have to take it back
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Bedpan-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 10:17:43
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No president could bring this country down because they don't have the power to. And ANYTHING that negatively impacts profit in this country would be crushed!
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 10:27:51
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I agree with that statement BP. There are too many safe guards in place. There's no way a president can bring down this country. He could however give us a big headache.
And yes EVERYTHING revolves around the almighty dollar. IMHO
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Aged
That's MISTER Lag Monkey to you.
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 10:35:53
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<--- backing out of this thread for a while (at least until I can separate some of the emotions out)
I find some of the opinions expressed in this thread to be very disturbing and I'm concerned if I respond to them without thinking carefully, I'll just upset somebody.
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 11:15:45
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Aww don't worry about it Aged. I would hope were all Mature enough to keep it all in perspective.
Like me, I know who to go gunning for in the FPS games after reading the "too hot to handle threads. :-O stay clear of Bypass and his RPG's
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HEARTBURN-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 11:17:35
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Nosey, let me instigate this...*-)
The reason there were no bid process for what Haliburton is doing is because at the time, Haliburton was the only company that could do the job quickly and efficiently. Anyone else would have required 12-24 months at least to get ramped up. Haliburton already had everything in place. the men, the materials, and the organization to make it happen. They have done a great job over there. And, the fact they do it for less that 6% profit is phenominal and a good deal. If we would have had to piece-mill the support, it may well have costs us 10 fold.
...and while we are talking about big oil, something you might want to remember is although they make a few billion, their actual return is around 9%. Would you start a company if you thought you would only get a 9% return on investment? Big oil doesn't make the oil. They spend billions finding it, drilling for it , transporting it, and refining it.
There are 2 main reasons why the US is not self sufficient. No, it's not because regulators will not let us produce in Alaska. It's refinery capacity and lack of the nuclear option. Because they won't let us drill and they won't let us build refineries or Nuclear plants, you, today are paying almost $4 per gallon....
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Bedpan-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 12:32:59
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Originally posted by HEARTBURN-OMO
...and while we are talking about big oil, something you might want to remember is although they make a few billion, their actual return is around 9%. Would you start a company if you thought you would only get a 9% return on investment? Big oil doesn't make the oil. They spend billions finding it, drilling for it , transporting it, and refining it.
There are 2 main reasons why the US is not self sufficient. No, it's not because regulators will not let us produce in Alaska. It's refinery capacity and lack of the nuclear option. Because they won't let us drill and they won't let us build refineries or Nuclear plants, you, today are paying almost $4 per gallon....
True enough HB but only 9%, I love to check those books. What is not said is with oil there is tremendous clout, and clout get things done.
As far as refineries go, who would build a refinery today with the huge push on for alternative fuels? By the time they got it into production it would be the year 2017!
Here's a suggestion: stop all kinds of racing; wastes to much fuel, then mandate all municipal(local, state,federal) vehicles go fuel cell and why you're at it, push the cafe to 50mpg and stop buying those SUVs and trucks you republicans you! But remember, all you middle class citizens, conserve, conserve, conserve so that the rich can continue to waste!
But I'm sure if you pick YOUR candidate, they'll change things for the better! Dream on!
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 15:43:01
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BlueHair is still the only candidate with a slogan i can understand . . .
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Bifocal-OMO
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 16:43:33
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I am not saying that McCain will change anything but he is the only one that says he will seccure the boarder. As for Republicans and their Suv's and Trucks. I know more Democrats that have those. Look at Al Gore. Good gosh. His house is the worst in the nation probably.
Also, McCain will build the Military back up. Now tell me that we do not need the military.
Also, Aged, you have the right to say anyting you want. I could get excited but not mad. If anyone else gets mad they can get unmad at the same time. Post what you want. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE FREEDOM.
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 16:46:46
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American Democracy;
Is it Nearing it's end?
In 1787 around the time our original thirteen States adopted their new Constitution, Alexander Tyler who was a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier.
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on,
THE MAJORITY ALWAYS VOTE FOR THE CANADATES WHO PROMISE THE MOST BENEFITS FROM THE PUBLIC TRESURY, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to the following policy, which is always followed by a DICTATORSHIP.
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
(Are you beginning to see the picture)?
During those 200 years, those nations ALWAYS progressed through the following sequence.
1. From Bondage to Spiritual Faith;
2. From Spiritual Faith to Great Courage;
3. From Courage to Liberty;
4. From Liberty to Abundance
5. From Abundance to Complacency;
6. From Complacency to Apathy;
7. From Apathy to DEPENDENCY
8. FROM DEPENDENCY TO BONDAGE
In Alexander Tyler observation at that time and in this observation now, where do we find our Nation, Is not America in this scenario?
This nation was born out of a hunger for religious freedom which witnessed great courage in the founding fathers who won the greatest liberty known to the world. This liberty spawned an abundance exceeding that of any other nation on this planet. But, on recent times we see a complacency that has led to bleak apathy in every quarter of our culture.
(As we all stood silently by).
We have a contrary and forward society of substance abuse, lazy unproductive citizens, a disdain for America by many of her own people, and many illegal aliens that are largely dependent upon a social welfare state that PROMISES to do everything for us and we are only one step from bondage again!
Our only hope is to skip the last stage (#8) and once again return to our roots in the faith of our fore fathers
This is now up to each one of us and to each Patriotic American
Do we now accept stage 8?
We have a choice, what will that choice be?
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 17:56:03
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OK so this Halliburton Video does show a TOUGH situaiton they get into. This first video link is what I watched and I read the article.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/ambush.html
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 18:29:17
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Aged don't back out of the thread, we love you man! That goes triple for you bypass (no pun intended)
I admit, I get carried away talking politics only because I don't have an outlet other than these boards and I find it quite therapeutic!
Besides I need a counter balance to my "Right wing antics" and I'm always interested in what the other side says, unless it's nosey then I just have to wipe the blood from my eyes from looking at his post.
In few more weeks it won't matter anyhow, Conan is coming out and we'll be spilling blood of our mutual enemy, flying monkeys!
But in the mean time...
Oil Companies are 98% publicly held via 401k's and various other managed retirement funds. I own stock in several as does Al Gore, you might too if you look hard enough. Oil is traded on the open market as a commodity, it's price has been driven up by speculators and a demand by 3rd world countries who economies, Ironically caused by US companies relocating there, have experienced a boom.
Would you say that amount of drivers and have increased in the USA since 1976? That's when the last refinery went online http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn12966.htm
Our refineries are operating at 100% capacity, wouldn't it have been prudent to build more? Sure but they were blocked by mostly Democrats.
We have millions of barrels of oil in the ground but... we couldn't drill because... you guessed it the Democrats. But hey a least some stupid little tree frog has a habitat to thrive in...
Halliburton: No company is perfect and in times of war the best laid plains are laid to rest after the first shot. Also in times of war the US Army corp of engineers forgo the lowest bidder rule and opt for the most expedient. There were only two companies in the world that could have done what Halliburton did and the other one is based in France, easy pick IMO.
Enough with that, lets get back on subject and find out what qualifies Obama to be president. give me 5 good reasons, please please!
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Posted - May 09 2008 : 20:53:35
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and has even stated that if the muslims attack he will side with them
Now I'm really confused. Are you stating that He didn't say that or he did say that.
Please give the book title and page number because I can't seem to find it. I'm not a Obama supporter but I do like to be informed and get really curious when statements are quoted as facts.
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