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Tell us how it is someone!
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 04:02:17
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Well, It's kinda cool. Rigormortis and I played a bit Tuesday night.
I set my graphics on Best performance to get a decent FPS of about 60+-.
There's a fair bit to learn. The strategy is different and teamwork is very important. The maps we played on were large and vehicles are needed at times.
There were objectives to take and they chained together like a power grid to activate a nuclear facility.
The weapons sound and feel good. The way to get them is different. You have to purchase them through experience points and lose your purchases every time you die. There are different loadouts ie sniper kit but you can also buy anything that's available. for example you can run around with shotgun and place claymores.
I wouldn't mind playing again with a couple more friends.
Besides that the single player is fun and worth the price of admission.
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Bloody
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 06:48:50
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Sounds like Crysis, but with more optimization of shaders for better FPS.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 07:22:57
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You have to purchase them through experience points and lose your purchases every time you die.
Main reason and hated Crysis MP.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 07:25:17
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FYI on Warhead.
This quote was from an article about the recent DRM lawsuit filed against EA for Securom on Spore. Sounds like if you installed Warhead your screwed too. :(
I was fine with the DRM thing, but what they failed to tell people was that even after the game is removed the Securom stays in the OS for good. As I posted in the Spore forums, I have had a number of memory overrun errors (with BSOD) and mega lag and connection issues in BF2 and even some odd issues with COD4 since installing Spore. It may be just coincidence, but somehow I don't think so.
It's getting to the point where you can't install anything anymore. What happened to the days of fun PC gaming without all the hassles?
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It sucks that you aren't told about SecuROM and that it's a pain to remove, but this is far
from the first game to perform such a feat. It's not even the most recent. Crytek's Crysis
Warhead, also published by EA, uses the same SecuROM technology. So did Bioware
and Demiurge's PC port of Mass Effect. Even Maxis' The Sims 2 used SecuROM.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 07:59:39
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I was about to go out and get this. Are suggesting I NOT get it Bloody!!!!
Is there any chatter about them taking that %$#@ off?
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 11:33:42
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The lawsuit will most likely result in them doing something to "reverse" the usage of Securom, but unlikely it will change anytime soon. The thing is that most of us probably have a game with Securom on in installed already (weather we know it or not). I would guess there is a list somewhere with Securom games listed.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 11:37:45
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I guess they learned nothing from Sony's rootkit debacle.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 11:44:25
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The last game I got was BF2 so I think I'm "clean". Old school but "clean".
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 11:45:43
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Found a list as of the 5th of this month. I would guess that everyone has at least one of these games installed or has been installed on their PC. Remember, Securom stays in the OS kernel even after the game is removed. ;)
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Securom Affected Games
Updated 2008-09-05
Spore and TS2: Apartment Life added.
So, how many games have SecuROM v7? Well, we think you'd be surprised as to how many games have this version. The majority of them haven't really had problems reported online but many of them do such as BioShock, Mass Effect, The Sims 2 games and C&C3: Kane's Wrath are just to name a few. Here is a list of games that have SecuROM v7 and their full versions:
Advent Rising (7.12.0013)
Alone in the Dark (7.37.0007)
ARMA: Armed Assault 1.08 (7.32.0015)
Battlefield 2142 1.5 (7.37.0007)
Battlestations Midway (7.30.0014)
BioShock (7.34.0007)
BloodRayne 2 (7.00.00.0001)
Boiling Point: Road to Hell (7.00.00.0022)
Broken Sword 4 (7.26.0007)
Broken Sword: The Angel Of Death (7.26.0007)
Caesar IV (7.27.0007)
Call of Juarez (7.24.0005)
CivCity: Rome (7.24.0009)
Civilization III Complete (7.00.00)
Clive Barker's Jericho (7.33.0016)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert Beta 2 (7.37.0012)
Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath (7.37.0012)
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars 1.9 (7.37.0017)
Commandos: Strike Force (7.19.0008)
Company Of Heroes (Gold) (7.33.0014)
Conflict: Denied Ops (7.35.0007)
Constantine (7.00.00.0018)
Crashday 1.1 (7.20.0010)
Crime Life: Gang Wars (7.00.00.0008)
Crysis 1.2 (7.36.0007)
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (7.28.0011)
Destination: Treasure Island (7.00.00.0001)
Devil May Cry 3 (7.00.00.0006)
Devil May Cry 4 (7.37.0007)
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey (7.20.0010)
Driver (4) - Parallel Lines (7.00.00.0047)
Driver (4) (7.00.00.0047)
Dungeon Siege II: Broken World (7.24.0008)
El Matador (7.26.0007)
Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles (7.30.0015)
Empire Earth 2: The Art of Supremacy (7.12.xxxx)
Empire Earth 3 1.1 (7.34.0016)
F.E.A.R. (7.24)
F.E.A.R. Extraction Point (7.27)
Faces of War (7.26)
FIFA 2008 (7.xx.xxxx)
FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage (7.37.0008)
Frontlines: Fuel Of War 1.0.1 (7.00.0007)
Football Manager 2008 (7.33.0017)
Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers (7.xx.xxxx)
Gears of War original (7.30.0015)
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (7.27.0014)
Gothic 2 (Gold) 1.32.0.1 (7.10.0008)
Gothic 2 - The Night of the Raven (Gold) 2.7.0.1 (7.00.00.0004)
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (7.11.0009)
GTR 2 1.1 (7.29.0009)
Guitar Hero III 1.3 (7.35.0007)
Happy Feet (7.27.0016)
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (7.33.0005)
Hellgate London (7.33.0017)
Heroes of Might & Magic V: Hammers of Fate (7.26.0047)
Heroes of The Pacific (7.00.00.0022)
Hitman: Blood Money (7.00.00.0018)
Hoyle Card games 2008 (7.xx.xxxx)
International Cricket Captain 2008 (7.37.0008)
Jade Empire: Special Edition (7.30.0015)
Juiced (7.00.00.0037)
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men (7.34.0016)
Kung Fu Panda (7.36.0011)
Lego Indiana Jones (7.37.0007)
Lego Star Wars (7.00.00.0012)
Lego Star Wars 2 (7.26.0009)
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (Colonies Edition) (07.36.0012)
Madden NFL 08 (7.33.0011)
Mass Effect (7.37.0007)
Medal Of Honor: Airborne 1.3 (7.36.0007)
Monopoly Here And Now (7.30.0014)
Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia (7.32.0013)
MotoGP URT 3 (7.11.0009)
Mountain Bike Adrenaline (07.36.0012)
Myst V - End of Ages (7.00.00.0029)
Need For Speed: Pro Street (7.34.0017)
Neverwinter Nights 2 (7.33.0012)
Overclocked (7.33.0015)
Pogo.com Games [some] (7.xx.xxxx)
Prey (7.27.0007)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (7.27.0007)
Project: Snowblind (7.000.000.32)
Psychonauts (7.00.00.0009)
Race Driver GRID (07.37.0010)
Rainbow Six: Vegas (7.29.0012)
Rainbow Six: Vegas 1.02 (7.30.0013)
Rayman Raving Rabids (7.29.0012)
Reservoir Dogs (7.26.0005)
Roller Coaster Tycoon 3: Soaked! (7.00.00.0115)
Roller Coaster Tycoon 3: Wild! (7.00.00.0137)
Serious Sam 2 (7.00.00.0172)
Serious Sam 2 (7.21.0009)
Sid Meier's Railroads 1.1 (7.30.0012)
SimCity Societies (7.35.0008)
Silent Hunter - Wolves of the Pacific (7.21.0009)
Splinter Cell: Double Agent (7.27.0014)
Spore (7.37.xxxx)
Spore Creature Creator (7.36.0012)
Stacked Poker (7.27.0012)
Stalker (7.21.0009)
Star Wars Battlefront 2 (7.00.00.0068)
Star Wars: Empire At War (7.xx.xxxx)
Stronghold 2 (7.00.00.0021)
Stronghold Legends (7.27.0012)
Stubbs the Zombie (7.00.00.0002)
Supreme Commander (7.30.0014)
The DaVinci Code (7.24.0009)
The Guild 2 (7.27.0012)
The Matrix: Path of Neo (7.00.00.0014)
The Matrix: Path of Neo (7.00.00.0017)
The Sims Castaway Stories (7.35.0007)
The Sims Pet Stories (7.33.0004)
The Sims 2 Apartment Life (7.37.0012)
The Sims 2 Bon Voyage (7.33.0014)
The Sims 2 Deluxe (7.32.0010)
The Sims 2 Double Deluxe (7.36.0010)
The Sims 2 FreeTime (7.37.0007)
The Sims 2 H&M Fashion Stuff (7.00.00.0311)
The Sims 2 IKEA Home Stuff (7.37.0007)
The Sims 2 Kitchen and Bath Interior Design Stuff (7.xx.xxxx)
The Sims 2 Teen Style Stuff (7.xx.xxxx)
Tomb Raider: Anniversary (7.xx.xxxx)
Tomb Raider: Legend Version (7.20.0010)
Total Overdose (7.00.00.0067)
Turning Point: Fall Of Liberty (7.xx.xxxx)
Vietcong 2 (7.00.00.0043)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Soulstorm (7.21.0009)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Winter Assault (7.00.00.0074)
World in Conflict (7.00..00.57-63-71-74)
World in Conflict (7.34.0017)
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 12:45:46
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Out of that list, I only have 5:
SPORE (Installed despite the 3 install restriction)
Never Winter Nights 2 (Installed but does not have the same restrictions as SPORE)
BF2142 1.5 (Download from EA Store and Installed - but keeps thinking 1.5 needs to be loaded up, again)
World in Conflict (Uninstalled)
War Hammer 40,000 (all versions Installed. It IS Relic, after all)
I have Company of Heroes and Opposing Forces, but not the Gold Version. I suppose they may have added it in on a patch, but again, this is not something that restricts your installs (currently on my second install following a planned wipe earlier this year).
Only one game I have restricts your installs: Spore. I bought it before I knew about the restriction.
I don't like DRM as a rule, and while I would like DRM free games, I do understand that there is an unreasonable habit people have of wanting things for free. SecuROM, however, is nothing near to being bad like StarForce which created nasty issues for people's computers. I flat out refused to buy any game that had it and from the looks of it, enough others did as well to cause developers to stop using StarForce.
Since I restrict games with serious DRM to one computer, I do notice when things start going awry as it effects other games installed on the comp. I tend to re-install the OS on my main gaming machine every year so the biggest issue for me is the restriction on installs: common, things happen to your computer and making such an asinine and arbitrary number with regards to installation/activation fails to impress users that you value their patronage. EA's response will be quite telling and determine whether I purchase further from them.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 14:48:17
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StarForce is almost identical to Securom (from what I have read about it at least). I guess most of the games with Securom have not caused too many issues for people, but apparently Spore, Bioshock and one other I can't remember have been causing major issues with some peoples PCs. I wouldn't say I have major issues cause of Spore, but I have had 5-6 BSOD in the last two weeks (memory error of some sort) and BF2 (mods too) are laggy for me now and I have had a number of connection issues with it and COD4 in the last few days too. :(
I hate the idea that a bunch of hackers are getting games for free and driving all the game makers to this point, but for hell sakes, at least make it less intrusive for the rest of us that actually buy games.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 14:59:58
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[I have had a number of connection issues with it and COD4 in the last few days too. :(
So... is that what happened to you Biff. I thought you were just rusty.
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 15:34:04
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hmmm... and I was thinking my network connection was getting spotty.
I need to monitor this more then.
Also, it should be noted that EA is using the most aggressive form of SecuROM. While I don't like it, I had far worse issues with StarForce games than with SecuROM games (no BSODs to report, but then I have not been playing for as many hours on end as I used to and I play MMOs far more now a days - no DRM issues with City of Heroes/Villains).
The irony is that the Piracy is still going on. It’s like gun bans: only the police and criminals carry them, but your average citizen cannot. Likewise with DRM: only the developers and Pirates can skirt the DRM, the average citizen has to suffer with it. The stricter the DRM, the more it encourages people to seek out non-DRMed sources. Either because they want to play their purchased game without being hamstrung or because they want to make a statement that the Publisher will feel (in the pocket book). Those who normally would steal it steal it anyways, so those of us who stand on principle lose out all the more.
I might as well stick to MMOs and Stardock games (even Steam, except for when the removal of SecuROM is forgotten about), but you guys are the main drivers who get me to stay with First Person Shooters which tend to be the main Piracy targets. 
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Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 15:49:39
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I ain't got one of them and I'm not going to get one. Thanks for the info Bloody. Will you come play with us some time?
(BF2 that is).
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Posted - Oct 13 2008 : 04:49:33
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I have a few of those games already. I have noticed no performance issues. Been playing CoD 4 and normally have the lowest ping in the game. Just got Warhead installed and played the first few min of the single player. Not enough to say anything about it other than the garphics are nice and it takes half a clip to kill some guy in jungle shorts.
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Posted - Oct 13 2008 : 06:15:07
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set one of your rifles for single shot and aim for the head. The Scar seems to do more damage so hang on to it as long as you can.
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Posted - Oct 13 2008 : 09:46:44
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Single shot for accuracy.
Auto for cluster or large targets.
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Posted - Oct 14 2008 : 13:14:00
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Love this game! The train sequence is super fun!
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Posted - Oct 16 2008 : 17:31:05
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Finished Warhead a few nights ago. Great single player game. Shame it had to end. Cant wait for the mods to hit.
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Posted - Oct 16 2008 : 20:16:36
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Can't wait for the Mech Warrior Mod.
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Well, Whos playin Warhead ??
